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1. [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: "John T. Blair" <jblair1948@cox.net>; Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:42:24 -0500; I had an interesting thing happen to my plumbing yesterday that I can't explain. For starters, I'm on city water and sewage - no well or spetic tank, etc. No one was home by me. I turned on the dish; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00420.html (10,408 bytes)
2. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org>; Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:47:25 -0400; Every single time this has happaned to me, it's been tree roots in the main sewer line. About 20% of the time, the shower or other low lying drain will back up when we flushed the toilet, but rarely; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00421.html (7,840 bytes)
3. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: "Matt" <mbarre@juno.com>; Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:51:15 GMT; Definitely strange. Can't imagine the house was plumbed with separate paths for black & grey water (which would explain a little). The chance of 2 separate plugs that clear simultaneously doesn't mak; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00422.html (10,879 bytes)
4. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net>; Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:51:04 -0400; I say it's a vent problem. Whenever you have bubbling/gurgling from a toilet, it means that the it isn't venting from where it is supposed to. And toilets are the most likely to not work when there's; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00423.html (7,852 bytes)
5. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: "John T. Blair" <jblair1948@cox.net>; Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:00:34 -0500; Matt, No. I only see 2 vents. One near the 2 bathrooms, and another one in the middle of the house over the kitchen. John John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair1948@cox.net Va. Beach, Va Phone: (757) 495; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00424.html (8,278 bytes)
6. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: "John T. Blair" <jblair1948@cox.net>; Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:02:17 -0500; Steven, Thanks. I guess I'll have to find a long snake and try pushing it down and see what happens. John John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair1948@cox.net Va. Beach, Va Phone: (757) 495-8229 48 TR1800; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00425.html (8,390 bytes)
7. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: Wayne <wmc_st@xxiii.com>; Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:10:04 -0400; The water in the bowl should be completely unaffected by what's going on in the rest of the system. The gurggling was probably negative pressure in the pipes sucking the water out of the bowl (insert; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00426.html (7,711 bytes)
8. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: "Mike Frerichs" <shoptalk@centipi.com>; Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:25:15 -0500; Here's another vote for a vent problem. That's the place I'd start looking also. Do you have any trees over your roof that could be dropping leaves in the vents? Any squirrels running around on your; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00427.html (7,978 bytes)
9. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: "John T. Blair" <jblair1948@cox.net>; Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:28:20 -0500; Thanks to all that have replied. I'm going to go up on the roof and check out the vent and see if I can find anything in there. John John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair1948@cox.net Va. Beach, Va Phone; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00428.html (7,520 bytes)
10. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: "Bill Gingerich" <bill@gingerich.us>; Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:44:13 -0500; I had a very similar situation at work a few months ago. Multiple toilets bubbling, all other drains working fine. I figured it was a vent issue. I called the plumber, who told me that every time he; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00429.html (11,823 bytes)
11. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: "John T. Blair" <jblair1948@cox.net>; Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:39:23 -0500; Bill et al. Thanks for the input Bill. Well the follow up, or the Rest of The Story. After I got the several emails about checking the vent I called a buddy, as he has a fish tape longer than anythin; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00430.html (10,758 bytes)
12. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: pethier@comcast.net; Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:09:20 +0000; You don't have basements in your part of the world? Hereabouts, if they can't find a cleanout, they pull a toilet off the floor. I have never heard of a sewer cleaner going on a roof to clear a drai; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00433.html (8,977 bytes)
13. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net>; Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:21:13 -0400; Hmmm. Televised sewer lines. Maybe that explains why every time I turn on the TV, all that's ever on is sh*t. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk mailing list http://autox.team.; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00435.html (7,610 bytes)
14. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: "Paul Mele" <paul.mele@usermail.com>; Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:00:14 -0400; With all the wit on this list, no-one else thought that it was a diet _______________________________________________ Shop-talk mailing list http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shop-talk; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00437.html (8,318 bytes)
15. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: "John T. Blair" <jblair1948@cox.net>; Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:19:50 -0500; Nope! I'm in Virginia Beach, VA, the far south eastern portion and have both the Atlantic Ocean and the Chesapeake Bay around us. I think the highest natural elevations is something like 6 to 10' abo; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00438.html (10,693 bytes)
16. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org>; Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:31:00 -0400; I figured he was readying his place for Thanksgiving... jim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk mailing list http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shop-talk; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00439.html (8,127 bytes)
17. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:12:35 -0800; Until of course, someone falls off (or worse, through) the roof. Most toilets come up surprisingly easy; just turn off the water, empty the tank, disconnect the water line, and break off two bolts.; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00440.html (8,899 bytes)
18. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: "John T. Blair" <jblair1948@cox.net>; Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:28:17 -0500; leaking, Randall, I have to agree with you. Even at $500 per year to clean the drain out, that's over 20 yrs to break even. And a lot longer at once every 15 yrs. :) John John T. Blair WA4OHZ email:; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00441.html (9,114 bytes)
19. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: pethier@comcast.net; Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:07:34 +0000; I understand. Here most houses have basements. Those that don't are built on a concrete slab. A house built above an open space would have frozen water pipes. Typically the method of a sewer-system d; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00444.html (11,754 bytes)
20. Re: [Shop-talk] plumping question (score: 1): Author: pethier@comcast.net; Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:30:06 +0000; I don't know your area, and I have not seen your property layout, but that sounds really high to me. Total replacements are generally half of that. $10,000 replacement jobs are rare here, and usually; /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00446.html (9,940 bytes)

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