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1. [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: Frank Vantacich <rustymetal@sbcglobal.net>; Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 06:39:25 -0800 (PST); When metering a 110vac outlet I understand when you meter across the two spade slots(on the receptacle it self) you should see around 115vac, but what are acceptable voltages across the large slot an; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00047.html (7,263 bytes)
2. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: "Karl Vacek" <kvacek@ameritech.net>; Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 09:13:49 -0600; Small slot (hot) and ground should be the same as small slot (hot) to large slot (neutral). Neutral to ground may show a couple of volts if there's a load on the line, higher depending on the amperag; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00048.html (8,052 bytes)
3. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 07:42:02 -0800; Nope, nothing to add to that synopsis. In fact I can never remember which blade is which; have to look at my tester http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130274383796 to be sure. Randal; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00049.html (6,845 bytes)
4. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: "Karl Vacek" <kvacek@ameritech.net>; Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:33:34 -0600; Don't know that this is the actual reason, but think about the danger of little kids sticking things into receptacles. The hot is smaller and thus harder to stick something in and get a shock. Elegan; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00052.html (7,691 bytes)
5. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 09:37:21 -0800; Works for me! Thanks, Karl. Randall _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Shop-talk mailing list http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/sho; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00053.html (7,353 bytes)
6. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org>; Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:45:51 -0500; It didn't work for me, the wires to the train track were both small enough. :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Hubbell jim, who flew across the room faster than the train from that trick _______; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00058.html (7,494 bytes)
7. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: Frank Vantacich <rustymetal@sbcglobal.net>; Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:41:20 -0800 (PST); Thank you for the feed back. I have 87vac on the small slot and 27vac on the large slot. I bought a brand new circuit tester made by Sperry, it also verifies GFI receptacles, it shows the receptacles; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00060.html (9,328 bytes)
8. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: Doug Braun <doug@dougbraun.com>; Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:51:21 -0800 (PST); Those testers in a plug with three little lights do a rather primitive test that can easily be wrong. They only indicate the no-load voltage difference between the different lines. They do NOT check; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00061.html (9,459 bytes)
9. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 21:39:34 -0800; I agree, not a total test. But what do you figure at the chances of someone accidentally connecting one wire to two terminals, and another wire to nothing at all ? Randall __________________________; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00062.html (8,220 bytes)
10. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 21:43:14 -0800; Hate to say it Frank, but IMO that still indicates a problem. The allowable voltage between neutral and ground is only a few volts (even 3 is suspect in my book, although I don't recall offhand what; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00063.html (8,386 bytes)
11. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: Richard Beels <rbeels@yahoo.com>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:30:42 -0500; I use mnemonics and acronyms for everything I can. the word "hot" is _smaller_ than the word "neutral" port is alphabetically before starboard, like left is before right ROYGBIV for the rainbow color; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00064.html (8,362 bytes)
12. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: "Karl Vacek" <kvacek@ameritech.net>; Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:10:57 -0600; As Randall said, this is not good. Maybe the NEW tester is the faulty item. Did the inspector rely on your new tester or did he use a meter to verify that all is now well ? If you mean 27 and 87 volt; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00066.html (10,953 bytes)
13. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: "Mark Watson" <watsonm05@comcast.net>; Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:07:03 -0500; I like your logic. It is certainly more straightforward than the twisted chain of logic I came up with: I remember "Wide White" to remember which wire goes to which blade. How do I remember that the; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00106.html (9,180 bytes)
14. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: "Karl Vacek" <kvacek@ameritech.net>; Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:06:04 -0600; <snip lots of stuff I sent directly to Frank> If your ground is a rebar in your concrete foundation, encased in concrete, that's NOT a good ground. You should get a real ground rod - a solid piece of; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00123.html (10,871 bytes)
15. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: "Karl Vacek" <kvacek@ameritech.net>; Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:08:44 -0600; I forgot to finish what I asked about your connection between the house and the barn. I assume you DID NOT carry the ground out to the barn and connect the grounds (house and barn) together. In some; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00124.html (9,756 bytes)
16. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: Wayne <wmc_st@xxiii.com>; Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:35:10 -0500; I had not heard of such a thing till a year or so ago. But the "ufer ground" is legit, and possibly better than a soil-encased rod: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ufer_Ground http://www.scott-inc.com/h; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00125.html (8,668 bytes)
17. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: "Karl Vacek" <kvacek@ameritech.net>; Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:32:49 -0600; Interesting - but it doesn't seem to be working so ufering well in Frank's case. Ufer grounding refers to grounding to a network of rebars that are well tied together - are your rebars, mesh, etc. al; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00128.html (10,328 bytes)
18. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: "David Scheidt" <dmscheidt@gmail.com>; Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:17:57 -0500; The wikipedia article says no such thing. One of the sites they link to does. However, NEC ground rods suck in much of the country (they work fine in most of the midwest, where you (and I) are.) Put; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00131.html (8,853 bytes)
19. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: "Karl Vacek" <kvacek@ameritech.net>; Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:27:23 -0600; Yes, Frank, it IS wrong to tie the neutral and ground together in the barn. That's what I've been referred to as bonding. The article to which I previously sent you a link explains why, more plainly; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00137.html (8,898 bytes)
20. Re: [Shop-talk] 110vac outlet question (score: 1): Author: "Karl Vacek" <kvacek@ameritech.net>; Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:38:00 -0600; Karl _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Shop-talk mailing list http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shop-talk http://www.team.net/archi; /html/shop-talk/2008-12/msg00138.html (9,246 bytes)

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