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I don't care if it takes tow days. I just wish everyone would stop emailing the
list about it.
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Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Arch Boston <arch.boston@twc.com> wrote:
At the risk of seeing old, which I am, in the grand scheme of things, what
difference does 15-20-30 minutes mean. I remember air mail taking a couple of
days --- and that was FAST! Enough about slow transmission. If speed was
important none of us would be playing with "old slow "cars. Arch
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 31, 2013, at 6:29 PM, "John Park" <jpark@bmts.com> wrote:
Enough with the list times etc. Reply to the sender only PLEASE!
From: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allen Bachelder
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:08 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] List response time
Fletcher,
Interesting that you got my 8:22 PM note at 8:26. I didn't get it until 8:04
this morning! But before I went to bed last night, I received Charlie's 9:42
PM note (at 10:03 PM), his 10:04 PM note (at 10:06 PM), Perkin's 12:42 PM note
(at 10:08 PM - over nine hours later), and Kurt's 11:28 PM note at 12:08 AM.
And your 8:52 PM reply to my note? ' Showed up here at 10:08 this morning.
Go figure!
Allen
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Allen & Florrie Bachelder =iii=<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North Street, MI 48049, USA
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
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On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Fletcher Millmore wrote:
And just think - those are the people saying Lucas is bad!
This 8:22 got here about 8:26, much better than your messages the other night
which were 30-45 minutes.
It is my understanding that the routing on the internet can be tortuous, with
stuff getting delayed at any point along the way, so it could be either - or
neither - end. Sequential messages do not necessarily travel the same route. I
expect a fly by night local ISP could be a factor in this, as it must interface
with a "real" internet doofus.
I do get email from certain sources that always arrives much later than
(claimed) sent time - Rock Auto is one.
Can you get send/receive info from the Digest version?
FRM
On 10/30/2013 8:22 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
I'm seeing erratic response times: some later responses coming in hours before
some earlier ones. ' Could tolerate the delay much more easily if it were
consistent. I'm talking delays of much more than 30-45 minutes. I'll write a
reply about this time in the evening and it might not show up for 20-24 hours.
In the meantime, other replies are coming in hours earlier, to questions posed
later. Tonight I received two or three replies before I received the questions
involved. Somebody sent in a picture. I have a reply from somebody else who
reports seeing it, but I haven't received the picture post yet...
' Don't think we're there yet...
Allen
****************************************************************
Allen & Florrie Bachelder =iii=<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North Street, MI 48049, USA
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
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On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
Steven Trovato wrote:
OK, so I responded to two different messages on this list. I sent them three
minutes apart. I received one from the list about 10-15 minutes later. The
other didn't show up for 30-45 minutes. Can anyone explain to me why this is?
What is causing such a long delay? I'm sending this one at 7:10pm Eastern
Time. Now we'll see if everyone gets this at 7:11pm just to make a liar out of
me. :-)
No, you are not imagining things, there can be some long delays in mail getting
sent out from
the server. At the moment the bottleneck seems to be mostly software related.
The program
that translates between IP addresses and names is not responding as quickly as
it should. And
with all the lists and all the addresses hostname lookups are a major factor in
the Team.Net
mailing list software.
I'm looking into it. Come the spring fund drive I may specifically request
assistance with a new
machine to run the nameserver, the current one is getting a bit long in the
tooth. Donate
early, donate often ;-)
I may be able to improve things a bit later this week, we shall see. At least
the mail does
eventually go through. Using something like http://www.team.net/forums would
not have
this issue, but a lot of folks prefer email.
mjb.
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Please excuse my brevity.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Arch Boston
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<div>At the risk of seeing old, which I am, in the grand scheme of things, what
difference does 15-20-30 minutes mean. I remember air mail taking a
couple of days --- and that was FAST! Enough about slow transmission.
If speed was important none of us would be playing with "old slow "cars.
Arch<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Oct 31, 2013, at 6:29 PM,
"John Park" <<a href="mailto:jpark@bmts.com";>jpark@bmts.com</a>>
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class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Enough
with the list times etc. Reply to the sender only
PLEASE!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<a
href="mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net";>zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a>
[mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allen
Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:08 PM<br><b>To:</b>
List for the Z Magnette Group - North
America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] List response
time<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p
class="MsoNormal">Fletcher,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal">Interesting that you got my 8:22 PM note at 8:26. I
didn't get it until 8:04 this morning! But before I went to bed last
night, I received Charlie's 9:42 PM note (at 10:03 PM), his 10:04 PM note (at
10:06 PM), Perkin's 12:42 PM note (at 10:08 PM - over nine hours later), and
Kurt's 11:28 PM note at 12:08 AM. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">And your
8:52 PM reply to my note? ' Showed up here at 10:08 this
morning.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Go
figure!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal">Allen<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><b><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">****************************************************************</span></i></b></span><span
class="apple-style-span"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Allen
& Florrie Bachelder =iii=<<br>Spring Creek Home
for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">'5
7 ZB,
'65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">North
Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p
class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><b><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><a
href="http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs";>http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></i></b></span><span
class="apple-style-span"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">****************************************************************</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Oct
30, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Fletcher Millmore wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p
class="MsoNormal"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">And just think - those are the people saying Lucas
is bad!<br>This 8:22 got here about 8:26, much better than your messages the
other night which were
30-45
minutes.<br>It is my understanding that the routing on the internet can be
tortuous, with stuff getting delayed at any point along the way, so it could be
either - or neither - end. Sequential messages do not necessarily travel the
same route. I expect a fly by night local ISP could be a factor in this, as it
must interface with a "real" internet doofus.<br>I do get email from certain
sources that always arrives much later than (claimed) sent time - Rock
Auto is one. <br><br>Can you get send/receive info from the Digest
version?<br><br>FRM<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 10/30/2013 8:22
PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">I'm seeing
erratic response times: some later responses coming in hours before some
earlier ones. ' Could tolerate the delay much more easily if it were
consistent. I'm talking delays of much more than 30-45 minutes.
I'll write a reply
about
this time in the evening and it might not show up for 20-24 hours. In the
meantime, other replies are coming in hours earlier, to questions posed later.
Tonight I received two or three replies before I received the questions
involved. Somebody sent in a picture. I have a reply from somebody
else who reports seeing it, but I haven't received the picture post yet...
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal">' Don't think we're there yet...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal">Allen<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><b><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">****************************************************************</span></i></b></span><span
class="apple-style-span"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">
</span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Allen
& Florrie Bachelder =iii=<<br>Spring Creek Home
for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">'57
ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">North
Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p
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style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><a
href="http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs";>http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></i></b></span><span
class="apple-style-span"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">
</span></span><span class="apple-style-span"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p
class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><spa
n
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">****************************************************************</span></span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Oct
28, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p
class="MsoNormal"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Steven
Trovato wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">OK, so I
responded to two different messages on this list. I sent them three
minutes apart. I received one from the list about 10-15 minutes later.
The other didn't show up for 30-45 minutes. Can anyone explai
n to me
why this is? What is causing such a long delay? I'm sending this
one at 7:10pm Eastern Time. Now we'll see if everyone gets this at 7:11pm
just to make a liar out of me. :-)<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p
class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>No, you are not imagining
things, there can be some long delays in mail getting sent out from<br>the
server. At the moment the bottleneck seems to be mostly software
related. The program<br>that translates between IP addresses and names is
not responding as quickly as it should. And<br>with all the lists and all
the addresses hostname lookups are a major factor in the <a
href="http://Team.Net/";>Team.Net</a><br>mailing list software.<br><br>I'm
looking into it. Come the spring fund drive I may specifically request
assistance with a new<br>machine to run the nameserver, the current one is
getting a bit long in the tooth. Donate<br>early, donate often
;-)<br><br>I
may be
able to improve things a bit later this week, we shall see. At least the mail
does<br>eventually go through. Using something like <a
href="http://www.team.net/forums";>http://www.team.net/forums</a> would not
have<br>this issue, but a lot of folks prefer
email.<br><br>mjb.<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Zmagnette
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