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Re: [WPTA] Front Springs and Shocks

To: Kevin Dadey <kevindadey@yahoo.com>, Kevin Dadey via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [WPTA] Front Springs and Shocks
From: JIM UNDERWOOD via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 11:51:07 -0400 (EDT)
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First of all I don't know a lot about Spitfires but do know a little about 
coilovers.   Gary is correct that shocks don't normally effect ride height.   
But with the coilover pictured the ride height is adjustable.   It appears that 
in the last photo, the mechanic adjusted the nut up to raise the ride height 
but this also collapsed the spring.   What you are getting now is called coil 
clash where the spring collapses fully and becomes solid.   I would venture to 
say that the shocks would be fine but need matched to the correct spring length 
and rate.  Can't help you there. 

> On 10/02/2024 1:38 PM EDT Kevin Dadey via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net> wrote:
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>  
> Hello again,
>  
> Thanks all for help on my previous issue with the leaky differential. 
>  
> Now I need your expert advice about the front suspension for my 1976 
> Spitfire. I was advised soon after purchasing this car in 2018, that shorter 
> front springs would help lower the nose of my car. It bothered me 
> considerably until last year when I started to address the issue. First I 
> purchased the shorter springs and a new set of stock shocks from Moss. I did 
> not feel confident doing this job myself, nor did my friend, Jeff, "The 
> Triumph Whisperer", who regularly assists me with my Spitfire projects. So, 
> our local and very trustworthy mechanic said he'd do the work. The initial 
> result was that the car sat far too low. He advised me to get a set of 
> adjustable shocks. He installed them also but again I was bottoming out on 
> our lovely Pittsburgh area roads. I took it back for adjustment. The result 
> is shown in the photos - Springs 1a and Springs 1b. Now the ride was very 
> hard and the car would regularly make a bang sound when driving over a small 
> ridge or hole in the pavement. 
>  
> Next, I posted these 2 photos on Facebook. Maybe some of you saw them. Of 
> course there was unanimous criticism of my mechanic's work. Some even said 
> that these new, shorter springs are shot. Probably junk in the first place. 
> The advice what to do next is a bit varied. Some said just adjust the shocks 
> creating more space between the coils. The other photo shows this setup using 
> Gaz shocks also. I've been advised by one of those Facebook commenters also 
> to purchase stock springs since the shorter ones were for earlier and lighter 
> cars. I'd like to know what you think. I'm certainly prepared to purchase the 
> correct set of springs but I'm hoping that these new Gaz shocks can still be 
> used.
>  
> Thank you again.
>  
> Kevin 
>  
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     Now I need your expert advice about the front suspension for my 1976 S=
pitfire. I was advised soon after purchasing this car in 2018, that shorter=
 front springs would help lower the nose of my car. It bothered me consider=
ably until last year when I started to address the issue. First I purchased=
 the shorter springs and a new set of stock shocks from Moss. I did not fee=
l confident doing this job myself, nor did my friend, Jeff, "The Triumph Wh=
isperer", who regularly assists me with my Spitfire projects. So, our local=
 and very trustworthy mechanic said he'd do the work. The initial result wa=
s that the car sat far too low. He advised me to get a set of adjustable sh=
ocks. He installed them also but again I was bottoming out on our lovely Pi=
ttsburgh area roads. I took it back for adjustment. The result is shown in =
the photos - Springs 1a and Springs 1b. Now the ride was very hard and the =
car would regularly make a bang sound when driving over a small ridge or ho=
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tup using Gaz shocks also. I've been advised by one of those Facebook comme=
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r and lighter cars. I'd like to know what you think. I'm certainly prepared=
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