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Hey Kevin.=C2=A0 First of all, for the most part, shocks won't increase or=
lower the ride height of the car.=C2=A0 The purpose of shocks is to dampen=
the ride.=C2=A0 So stiffer shocks make the ride harder but can also improv=
e the handling of the car.=C2=A0 One exception to this are air shocks and t=
here may be a few others that I'm not thinking of.=C2=A0 Are the Gaz shocks=
, performance shocks?=C2=A0 That will add to the stiffness of the ride.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0
What is going on in photo #3?=C2=A0 The spring is completely compressed.=C2=
=A0 That is definitely incorrect.=C2=A0 You should have approximately 2 inc=
hes from the bottom of the shock tube to the bottom of the lower perch that=
the spring rides on.=C2=A0 It looks like the distance on your shocks are l=
onger based on photo #2 which could be causing the issue.=C2=A0=C2=A0
I'm guessing that there is a difference between Moss "shorter springs" and =
the factory springs as used on the earlier 1500 Spitfires when the ride hei=
ght was lower.=C2=A0 The Moss "shorter springs" may be performance springs =
that are intended to lower the car and make it much stiffer.=C2=A0 I'm pret=
ty sure Moss has a tech line that you can call and ask them if those spring=
s were correct for what you are trying to do.=C2=A0 I'm guessing that the=
=C2=A0Moss "shorter springs" are adding to the stiffness of your ride.
You may need to do more research but you may find out that both the springs=
and shocks will need to be replaced to accomplish the ride height and stif=
fness that you are trying to get to.=C2=A0 I'm using stock springs out of a=
73 Spitfire and Spax adjustable shocks on my 76 Spitfire but I prefer a ha=
rsher ride and better handling.
Feel free to call me 724-378-9610 if you want to talk about it in more deta=
il.
Gary=C2=A0
On Wednesday, October 2, 2024 at 01:48:20 PM EDT, Kevin Dadey via Wpta =
<wpta@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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Hello again,
Thanks all for help on my previous issue with the leaky differential.=C2=A0
Now I need your expert advice about the front suspension for my 1976 Spitfi=
re. I was advised soon after purchasing this car in 2018, that shorter fron=
t springs would help lower the nose of my car. It bothered me considerably =
until last year when I started to address the issue. First I purchased the =
shorter springs and a new set of stock shocks from Moss. I did not feel con=
fident doing this job myself, nor did my friend, Jeff, "The Triumph Whisper=
er", who regularly assists me with my Spitfire projects. So, our local and =
very trustworthy mechanic said he'd do the work. The initial result was tha=
t the car sat far too low. He advised me to get a set of adjustable shocks.=
He installed them also but again I was bottoming out on our lovely Pittsbu=
rgh area roads. I took it back for adjustment. The result is shown in the p=
hotos - Springs 1a and Springs 1b. Now the ride was very hard and the car w=
ould regularly make a bang sound when driving over a small ridge or hole in=
the pavement.=C2=A0
Next, I posted these 2 photos on Facebook. Maybe some of you saw them. Of c=
ourse there was unanimous criticism of my mechanic's work. Some even said t=
hat these new, shorter springs are shot. Probably junk in the first place. =
The advice what to do next is a bit varied. Some said just adjust the shock=
s creating more space between the coils. The other photo shows this setup u=
sing Gaz shocks also. I've been advised by one of those Facebook commenters=
also to purchase stock springs since the shorter ones were for earlier and=
lighter cars. I'd like to know what you think. I'm certainly prepared to p=
urchase the correct set of springs but I'm hoping that these new Gaz shocks=
can still be used.
Thank you again.
Kevin=C2=A0
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hey Kevin. First of al=
l, for the most part, shocks won't increase or lower the ride height of the=
car. The purpose of shocks is to dampen the ride. So stiffer s=
hocks make the ride harder but can also improve the handling of the car.&nb=
sp; One exception to this are air shocks and there may be a few others that=
I'm not thinking of. Are the Gaz shocks, performance shocks? T=
hat will add to the stiffness of the ride. </div><div dir=3D"ltr=
" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Wh=
at is going on in photo #3? The spring is completely compressed. =
; That is definitely incorrect. You should have approximately 2 inche=
s from the bottom of the shock tube to the bottom of the lower perch that t=
he spring rides on. It looks like the distance on your shocks are lon=
ger based on photo #2 which could be causing the issue. </div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false">I'm guessing that there is a difference between Moss "shorter sp=
rings" and the factory springs as used on the earlier 1500 Spitfires when t=
he ride height was lower. The Moss "shorter springs" may be performan=
ce springs that are intended to lower the car and make it much stiffer.&nbs=
p; I'm pretty sure Moss has a tech line that you can call and ask them if t=
hose springs were correct for what you are trying to do. I'm guessing=
that the <span><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Moss "shorter sp=
rings" are adding to the stiffness of your ride.</span></span></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); f=
ont-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"=
><br></span></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">You may nee=
d to do more research but you may find out that both the springs and shocks=
will need to be replaced to accomplish the ride height and stiffness that =
you are trying to get to. I'm using stock springs out of a 73 Spitfir=
e and Spax adjustable shocks on my 76 Spitfire but I prefer a harsher ride =
and better handling.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Feel free to call me 724-378-9610 if=
you want to talk about it in more detail.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdi=
r=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Gary </di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-se=
tdir=3D"false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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evin Dadey via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><div id=3D"ydp52db295yiv0376950073"><div><div style=3D=
"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" =
class=3D"ydp52db295yiv0376950073ydpca9d33b0yahoo-style-wrap"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Hello again,</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Thanks all for help on my previous issue with the leaky differential.&nbs=
p;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Now I need your expert =
advice about the front suspension for my 1976 Spitfire. I was advised soon =
after purchasing this car in 2018, that shorter front springs would help lo=
wer the nose of my car. It bothered me considerably until last year when I =
started to address the issue. First I purchased the shorter springs and a n=
ew set of stock shocks from Moss. I did not feel confident doing this job m=
yself, nor did my friend, Jeff, "The Triumph Whisperer", who regularly assi=
sts me with my Spitfire projects. So, our local and very trustworthy mechan=
ic said he'd do the work. The initial result was that the car sat far too l=
ow. He advised me to get a set of adjustable shocks. He installed them also=
but again I was bottoming out on our lovely Pittsburgh area roads. I took =
it back for adjustment. The result is shown in the photos - Springs 1a and =
Springs 1b. Now the ride was very hard and the car would regularly make a b=
ang sound when driving over a small ridge or hole in the pavement. </d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Next, I posted these 2 photo=
s on Facebook. Maybe some of you saw them. Of course there was unanimous cr=
iticism of my mechanic's work. Some even said that these new, shorter sprin=
gs are shot. Probably junk in the first place. The advice what to do next i=
s a bit varied. Some said just adjust the shocks creating more space betwee=
n the coils. The other photo shows this setup using Gaz shocks also. I've b=
een advised by one of those Facebook commenters also to purchase stock spri=
ngs since the shorter ones were for earlier and lighter cars. I'd like to k=
now what you think. I'm certainly prepared to purchase the correct set of s=
prings but I'm hoping that these new Gaz shocks can still be used.</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you again.</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Kevin </div><div><br></div></div><div =
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