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Re: [Healeys] Thermostats

To: Linwood Rose <linwoodrose@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Thermostats
From: David Nock <healeydoc@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 20:16:50 -0700
Cc: Forum Healeys <Healeys@autox.team.net>
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If you are using the alloy radiator you have a short neck cap. Depending on t=
he press=E2=80=99s app you are using you can not use a bellows type thermost=
at. Because the bellows will collapse if you use anything over 7 lbs. Then t=
he thermostat will close and the engine will overheat.=20

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Linwood Rose <linwoodrose@mac.com> wrote:
>=20
> I would like to go back to Steve Byers=E2=80=99 comment. I am not so much c=
oncerned about my car overheating. When the engine was rebuilt it was thorou=
ghly cleaned to get rid of all sludge. I run an aluminum radiator, have buil=
t and installed air ducting for improved flow. I do not have an electric fan=
.=20
>=20
> My problem was that my engine ran cool and would take quite a while to =E2=
=80=9Cwarm up.=E2=80=9D I think I was using a 165 degree (or thereabouts) no=
n-sleeved thermostat. Robert Shaw as I recall. So I wanted to get my engine u=
p to 185-190 degrees sooner. I went with one of the same AC sleeved thermost=
ats 82 degrees centigrade from Kees that Steve used. The engine seems to be m=
uch happier and gets to running temp more quickly.
>=20
> At least for my engine, a 160-165 degree thermostat keeps things cool too l=
ong. In a perfect world I would prefer David Nock=E2=80=99s bellows thermost=
at but with a 185-190 degree opening. Since that doesn=E2=80=99t seem to be a=
vailable I think I will stick with the AC unit and keep my eye on the temp. G=
auge.
>=20
> I am no authority on this. I am simply passing along my experience. Am I u=
nderstanding all of this correctly?=20
>=20
> Thanks,
> Lin
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
>> On Sep 15, 2018, at 9:30 PM, Rossm <rvmaylor@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>=20
>> To be fair Michael, it is hot maybe three days a year in Canada?:) .  I l=
eft Calgary yesterday for the Rendezvous and it was snowing already. First t=
ime the hood contraption on the BN6 has been up since last September. =20
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>>> On Sep 15, 2018, at 10:50, Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>>>=20
>>> Well I have watched this discussion on sleeved thermostats for the last w=
eek but now I just have to say. When the sleeved thermostats went NLA, about=
 45 years ago, we resorted to installing just plain old Stant 175 degree sta=
ts and guess what ... not one complaint or comment on running hotter or over=
heating and absolutely no sign of any symptoms of overheating on my own BJ8 e=
ven in the hottest of ambient temperatures. It just didn't happen!!! Just sa=
yin'. M=20
>>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Rossm <rvmay=
lor@shaw.ca>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 10:35:32 AM
>>> To: Forum Healeys
>>> Subject: [Healeys] Thermostats
>>> =20
>>> Three sleeved thermostats, one on the right 160 degrees, middle no idea,=
  left is a Smiths x85002s/86 (180F) and has failed open.=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">If you are using the alloy radiator you hav=
e a short neck cap. Depending on the press=E2=80=99s app you are using you c=
an not use a bellows type thermostat. Because the bellows will collapse if y=
ou use anything over 7 lbs. Then the thermostat will close and the engine wi=
ll overheat.&nbsp;<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone=
</div><div><br>On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Linwood Rose &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:linwoodrose@mac.com">linwoodrose@mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text=
/html; charset=3Dutf-8">I would like to go back to Steve Byers=E2=80=99 comm=
ent. I am not so much concerned about my car overheating. When the engine wa=
s rebuilt it was thoroughly cleaned to get rid of all sludge. I run an alumi=
num radiator, have built and installed air ducting for improved flow. I do n=
ot have an electric fan.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>My problem was that my eng=
ine ran cool and would take quite a while to =E2=80=9Cwarm up.=E2=80=9D I th=
ink I was using a 165 degree (or thereabouts) non-sleeved thermostat. Robert=
 Shaw as I recall. So I wanted to get my engine up to 185-190 degrees sooner=
. I went with one of the same AC sleeved thermostats 82 degrees centigrade f=
rom Kees that Steve used. The engine seems to be much happier and gets to ru=
nning temp more quickly.</div><div><br></div><div>At least for my engine, a 1=
60-165 degree thermostat keeps things cool too long. In a perfect world I wo=
uld prefer David Nock=E2=80=99s bellows thermostat but with a 185-190 degree=
 opening. Since that doesn=E2=80=99t seem to be available I think I will sti=
ck with the AC unit and keep my eye on the temp. Gauge.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>I am no authority on this. I am simply passing along my experience. Am I=
 understanding all of this correctly?&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,=
</div><div>Lin<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</di=
v><div><br>On Sep 15, 2018, at 9:30 PM, Rossm &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rvmaylor=
@shaw.ca">rvmaylor@shaw.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8">To be fair Michael, it is hot maybe three days a year in Canada?:) . &=
nbsp;I left Calgary yesterday for the Rendezvous and it was snowing already.=
 First time the hood contraption on the BN6 has been up since last September=
. &nbsp;<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div><div=
><br>On Sep 15, 2018, at 10:50, Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael=
.salter@gmail.com">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><div>

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<div>Well I have watched this discussion on sleeved thermostats for the last=
 week but now I just have to say. When the sleeved thermostats went NLA, abo=
ut 45 years ago, we resorted to installing just plain old Stant 175 degree s=
tats and guess what ... not one
 complaint or comment on running hotter or overheating and absolutely no sig=
n of any symptoms of overheating on my own BJ8 even in the hottest of ambien=
t temperatures. It just didn't happen!!! Just sayin'. M
<hr tabindex=3D"-1" style=3D"display:inline-block; width:98%">
<div id=3D"x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" c=
olor=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&g=
t; on behalf of Rossm &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rvmaylor@shaw.ca";>rvmaylor@shaw.=
ca</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 15, 2018 10:35:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Forum Healeys<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Thermostats</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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<div class=3D"PlainText">Three sleeved thermostats, one on the right 160 deg=
rees, middle no idea,&nbsp; left is a Smiths x85002s/86 (180F) and has faile=
d open.
<br>
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