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The diff is we learned HOW/why computers worked as it and we, grew up.
The kids today, it's a tool only. Hell many draw a blank stare when
confronted with
clockwise counter clockwise, or can't understand a rotary dial phone was
simpler
than a digital key press.
My most favorite bumper sticker also demonstrates this point.....
Oem Millennial Anti Theft Protected
Every Triumph (97+%?) came with them.
ptegler
On 11/4/2024 6:45 PM, dave northrup wrote:
> I am 70 and in IT. People always say that the young folk know all
> about computers and technology. They don't.  I run circles around
> them and am constantly amazed at how little they really know
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
> Date: 11/4/24 4:17 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: keithstewart@bell.net
> Cc: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Re Facebook
>
> Hi, Keith,
>
> An interesting query appropriate to the day. Only this afternoon, I
> was driving two grandsons (in teens) and with a same age friend home
> from school. On the way and stuck in traffic, I was asked if I thought
> smartphone technology was advantageous to my lifestyle. I said it
> wasnâ??t, explaining I only use my phone to make and receive the
> occasional call or to send/receive the even more occasional text. I
> donâ??t use it for anything else and when using my mobility scooter in
> populated areas I tend to not avoid those who canâ??t walk anywhere
> unless theyâ??re glued to a handheld screen and oblivious to everything
> surrounding them. So I just drive at them because the scooter has
> outstanding brakes. Twenty plus years ago, I refused to allow my
> company provided car to be fitted with a car phone because driving in
> this overcrowded island then demanded total attention at all times.
> Itâ??s even worse now. My boss and his boss were of the same view so I
> was â??protectedâ?? from those who held divergent opinions. Some years
> later, i had a colleague who never answered his employer provided
> smartphone if he was driving and would throw it out of the window
> whenever it rang. He got through a lot of phones in the course of a
> year until it was decided to give him a telephone credit card instead.
> But Iâ??m not totally resistant to technology and spend a lot of time
> writing on my laptop. In fact, Iâ??ve got my second Life at Triumph book
> almost ready for publication but I just canâ??t get my head around the
> technology provided by Amazon and Kindle. Each time I try, everything
> goes â??tits upâ?? and I manage to blow a memory somewhere.
> Â Perhaps little Poppy, my three year old grand-daughter could help
> there? Most kids of almost any age have forgotten more than Iâ??ve ever
> learned on the cyber tech front so maybe Iâ??ll ask Poppy for her help?
>
> Cheers, John
>
> > On 4 Nov 2024, at 20:49, <keithstewart@bell.net>
> <keithstewart@bell.net> wrote:
> >
> > I am shocked John. When dd you become clunky and boring? Did you use
> OEM parts/enhancements, or were they aftermarket? Were the changes you
> made reversible, or have you permanently made the adjustment?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Keith
> >
> > Keith Stewart
> > keithstewart@bell.net
> > https://keith-stewart.ca/
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.com>
> > Sent: November 3, 2024 4:51 PM
> > To: dave@ranteer.com
> > Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> > Subject: [TR] Re Facebook
> >
> > For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account without saying
> why. To be honest I read so many posts on it covering a plethora of
> subjects - the majority of which were unsolicited and Iâ??m now SO glad
> to be rid of the damned thing and I certainly wonâ??t be going there
> again. This list may not be as heavily trafficked as it was 20 plus
> years ago but I still prefer it to other web based alternatives that
> are clunky to navigate and generally rather boring.
> > But I guess Iâ??ve reached an age where Iâ??m likely to others to be
> clunky and boring so it evens out all round for everyone.
> >
> > Heigh-ho
> >
> > Jonmac
> >
> >
>
>
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<p>The diff is we learned HOW/why computers worked as it and we,
grew up.<br>
The kids today, it's a tool only. Hell many draw a blank stare
when confronted with <br>
clockwise counter clockwise, or can't understand a rotary dial
phone was simpler <br>
than a digital key press.</p>
<p>My most favorite bumper sticker also demonstrates this point.....<br>
Oem Millennial Anti Theft Protected           <br>
<br>
Every Triumph (97+%?) came with them.</p>
<p>ptegler<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/4/2024 6:45 PM, dave northrup
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<div dir="auto">I am 70 and in IT. People always say that the
young folk know all about computers and technology. They
don't.  I run circles around them and am constantly amazed at
how little they really know
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<div>From: John Macartney <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.com";><johnbmacartney@gmx.com></a> </div>
<div>Date: 11/4/24 4:17 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
<div>To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:keithstewart@bell.net";>keithstewart@bell.net</a> </div>
<div>Cc: dave northrup <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com";><dave@ranteer.com></a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a> </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [TR] Re Facebook </div>
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<div class="PlainText">Hi, Keith,<br>
<br>
An interesting query appropriate to the day. Only this
afternoon, I was driving two grandsons (in teens) and with a
same age friend home from school. On the way and stuck in
traffic, I was asked if I thought smartphone technology was
advantageous to my lifestyle. I said it wasnâ??t, explaining I
only use my phone to make and receive the occasional call or
to send/receive the even more occasional text. I donâ??t use
it for anything else and when using my mobility scooter in
populated areas I tend to not avoid those who canâ??t walk
anywhere unless theyâ??re glued to a handheld screen and
oblivious to everything surrounding them. So I just drive at
them because the scooter has outstanding brakes. Twenty plus
years ago, I refused to allow my company provided car to be
fitted with a car phone because driving in this overcrowded
island then demanded total attention at all times. Itâ??s even
worse now. My boss and his boss were of the same view so I
was â??protectedâ?? from those who held divergent opinions. Some
years later, i had a colleague who never answered his
employer provided smartphone if he was driving and would
throw it out of the window whenever it rang. He got through
a lot of phones in the course of a year until it was decided
to give him a telephone credit card instead.<br>
But Iâ??m not totally resistant to technology and spend a lot
of time writing on my laptop. In fact, Iâ??ve got my second
Life at Triumph book almost ready for publication but I just
canâ??t get my head around the technology provided by Amazon
and Kindle. Each time I try, everything goes â??tits upâ?? and I
manage to blow a memory somewhere.<br>
 Perhaps little Poppy, my three year old grand-daughter
could help there? Most kids of almost any age have forgotten
more than Iâ??ve ever learned on the cyber tech front so maybe
Iâ??ll ask Poppy for her help?<br>
<br>
Cheers, John<br>
<br>
> On 4 Nov 2024, at 20:49, <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:keithstewart@bell.net";><keithstewart@bell.net></a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:keithstewart@bell.net";><keithstewart@bell.net></a> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> I am shocked John. When dd you become clunky and
boring? Did you use OEM parts/enhancements, or were they
aftermarket? Were the changes you made reversible, or have
you permanently made the adjustment?<br>
> <br>
> Cheers<br>
> Keith<br>
> <br>
> Keith Stewart<br>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:keithstewart@bell.net";>keithstewart@bell.net</a><br>
> <a href="https://keith-stewart.ca/";
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://keith-stewart.ca/</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: John Macartney <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.com";><johnbmacartney@gmx.com></a> <br>
> Sent: November 3, 2024 4:51 PM<br>
> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.com</a><br>
> Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
> Subject: [TR] Re Facebook<br>
> <br>
> For reasons unknown to me, BookFace closed my account
without saying why. To be honest I read so many posts on it
covering a plethora of subjects - the majority of which were
unsolicited and Iâ??m now SO glad to be rid of the damned
thing and I certainly wonâ??t be going there again. This list
may not be as heavily trafficked as it was 20 plus years ago
but I still prefer it to other web based alternatives that
are clunky to navigate and generally rather boring.<br>
> But I guess Iâ??ve reached an age where Iâ??m likely to
others to be clunky and boring so it evens out all round for
everyone.<br>
> <br>
> Heigh-ho<br>
> <br>
> Jonmac<br>
> <br>
> <br>
<br>
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