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Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive - Stag

To: "'Lee&John Howard'" <leejohn7@gmail.com>, "'DAVID MASSEY'" <dave1massey@cs.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive - Stag
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Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 17:42:54 -0600
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John,

Well there is good news and bad news.   Like Dave  thinks, if it is the =
top cover switches, the good news is the original Lucas switches can be =
carefully disassembled, contacts cleaned, lubricated, and reassembled.  =
Beware if the available replacement switches as they are usually =
garbage.

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I have some photos of that process.

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The bad news is, on a Stag that requires dropping the transmission to =
get to the switches, OR, cutting a hole in the metal transmission cover =
and making a larger plate to cover the access hole.

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Glenn aka StagByTriumph Garage

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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Lee&John =
Howard
Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 3:35 PM
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Cc: triumph list list <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] J-Type Overdrive - Stag

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Yes, it switches in and out all by itself. When I then switch back to =
4th she behaves normally. I'll first check where the OD sub-harness =
meets the wiring that goes up the shift lever. In that space several =
wire bunches are scrunched together.

Thankyou Dave.

JohnH

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On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 1:07=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com =

Does it switch in and out with no input from you or is it necessary for =
you to re-engage each time?  If it is the former it might be something =
as simple as the adjustment of one of the interlock switches on top of =
the transmission.  If it is set right at the ragged edge of actuation it =
can be switching from open to closed to open just due to the vibrations. =
 Also check the wiring for a loose or poorly crimped connector. =20

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Dave=20

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On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 02:22:56 PM CDT, Lee&John Howard =

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Looking for some help with my 73 Stag's overdrive. After some work =
behind the dash instigated by my recovering the center console, on the =
very first drive OD would not stay engaged.  After being switched on it =
would immediately begin to flip in and out, not holding OD for more than =
a second or two. Could this be a wiring issue? I'll be checking the =
switch a little later. Any other ideas? Its been working flawlessly =
since a rebuild maybe 10 years ago.=20

Many thanks

JohnH


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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>John,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Well there is good news and bad news.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Like =
Dave =C2=A0thinks, if it is the top cover switches, the good news is the =
original Lucas switches can be carefully disassembled, contacts cleaned, =
lubricated, and reassembled.=C2=A0 Beware if the available replacement =
switches as they are usually garbage.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have some =
photos of that process.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The bad news =
is, on a Stag that requires dropping the transmission to get to the =
switches, OR, cutting a hole in the metal transmission cover and making =
a larger plate to cover the access hole.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Glenn aka =
StagByTriumph Garage<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
&lt;triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lee&amp;John =
Howard<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 3, 2023 3:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> DAVID =
MASSEY &lt;dave1massey@cs.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> triumph list list =
&lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] J-Type =
Overdrive - Stag<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Yes, it switches in and out all by itself. When I then =
switch back to 4th she behaves normally. I'll first check where the OD =
sub-harness meets the wiring that goes up the shift lever. In that space =
several wire bunches are scrunched together.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thankyou Dave.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>JohnH<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 1:07=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Does it switch =
in and out with no input from you or is it necessary for you to =
re-engage each time?&nbsp; If it is the former it might be something as =
simple as the adjustment of one of the interlock switches on top of the =
transmission.&nbsp; If it is set right at the ragged edge of actuation =
it can be switching from open to closed to open just due to the =
vibrations.&nbsp; Also check the wiring for a loose or poorly crimped =
connector.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
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p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"m_2845058754172171572ydp17e4ae3dyahoo_quoted_8491281208"><div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 02:22:56 PM CDT, Lee&amp;John Howard =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:leejohn7@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">leejohn7@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3D"m_2845058754172171572ydp17e4ae3dyiv0008542781"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Looking for some help with my 73 Stag's overdrive. After some work =
behind the dash instigated by my recovering the center console, on the =
very first drive OD would not stay engaged.&nbsp; After being switched =
on it would immediately begin to flip in and out, not holding OD for =
more than a second or two. Could this be a wiring issue? I'll be =
checking the switch a little later. Any other ideas? Its been working =
flawlessly since a rebuild maybe 10 years ago. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Many thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>JohnH<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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