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To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 15, Issue 104
From: Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 16:11:08 -0500
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Dave, way back when Randall (RIP) recommended an EL13 Flasher to me, 3
prong, wasn't a Triumph, but search of the archives show he recommended for
Triumph as well, Tridon or other brands.  Should be available at FLAPS.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022, 3:36 PM dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:

> The problem was no blinkers at all, no noise, no trafficator light.
>
>
>
> I looked at the wiring diagram (duh!) and that really helped.  Plus I was
> trying to trouble shoot the blinker module, but made no progress there in
> testing various connections w/battery.
>
>
>
> I cannot see the wire colors behind the plug where the module plugs in =
=E2=80=93
> its up against the side and there is sufficient crap around it to hide th=
em.
>
>
>
> After consulting the wiring diagram (again duh!) I realized how I could
> test it =E2=80=93 by bridging the wires.  After using a test light to asc=
ertain the
> power source, I found out that the =E2=80=9Cblinkers=E2=80=9D work just f=
ine, although
> obviously they don=E2=80=99t blink.   Now its off to a flaps to see if I =
can find a
> three prong blinker module, preferably analog, although I=E2=80=99ll go d=
igital if
> I have to.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your response.
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Benjami=
n
> Zwissler
> *Sent:* Friday, July 15, 2022 2:14 PM
> *To:* Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 15, Issue 104
>
>
>
> Sorry if this has been answered, but I'm on the digest.  The green wire
> (X) should show battery voltage t if the key is on.  The Green/Brown wire
> (L) should  also show battery voltage if you don't have the turn signal o=
n
> and then open and close when you activate the turn signal switch in eithe=
r
> direction.  The Light Green/Purple wire (P) goes to the dash lamp and
> should do the same as the Green/Brown wire.
>
>
>
> If you have the flasher out there should be continuity between X and L an=
d
> X and P.  It won't go open until the current flow is high enough to heat
> the bimetallic strip and open the circuit.  An ohmmeter won't flow enough
> current to open it.
>
>
>
> If you have a newer electronic flasher it depends on what kind you have.
> Generally they'll start flashing as soon as there's any path to ground.
>
>
>
> You don't want a "really" new flasher that fast flashes when there's a
> bulb out.
>
>
>
> What's your problem?   No light?  Light all the time?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ben Zwissler
>
> bjzwissler@gmail.com
>
> 812-343-5533
>
> Columbus, IN
>
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 17:01:48 +0000
> From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
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> Subject: [TR] blinker module 63 TR4
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> The blinker module on this car is likely not original.
>
> It has 3 tabs, labeled L, P, X
>
> I think its bad; seemed hot when I pulled it out after testing the
> blinkers.
>
> How do I test it?
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<div dir=3D"auto">Dave, way back when Randall (RIP) recommended an EL13 Fla=
sher to me, 3 prong, wasn&#39;t a Triumph, but search of the archives show =
he recommended for Triumph as well, Tridon or other brands.=C2=A0 Should be=
 available at FLAPS.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemo=
n</div><div dir=3D"auto">TR250</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 15, 2022, 3:36 PM dave nort=
hrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noref=
errer">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:break=
-word">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The problem was no blinkers at all, no noise, no tra=
fficator light.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I looked at the wiring diagram (duh!) and that reall=
y helped.=C2=A0 Plus I was trying to trouble shoot the blinker module, but =
made no progress there in testing various connections w/battery.=C2=A0
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I cannot see the wire colors behind the plug where t=
he module plugs in =E2=80=93 its up against the side and there is sufficien=
t crap around it to hide them.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">After consulting the wiring diagram (again duh!) I r=
ealized how I could test it =E2=80=93 by bridging the wires.=C2=A0 After us=
ing a test light to ascertain the power source, I found out that the =E2=80=
=9Cblinkers=E2=80=9D work just fine, although obviously they don=E2=80=99t
 blink.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Now its off to a flaps to see if I can find a three pro=
ng blinker module, preferably analog, although I=E2=80=99ll go digital if I=
 have to.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thank you for your response.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs=
-bounces@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tr=
iumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Benjamin Zwissler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 15, 2022 2:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"n=
oreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 15, Issue 104<u></u><u></u></=
p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sorry if this has been answered, but I&#39;m on the =
digest.=C2=A0 The green wire (X) should show battery voltage t if the key i=
s on.=C2=A0 The Green/Brown wire (L) should=C2=A0 also show battery voltage=
 if you don&#39;t have the turn signal on and then open and
 close when you activate the turn signal switch in either direction.=C2=A0 =
The Light Green/Purple wire (P) goes to the dash lamp and should do the sam=
e as the Green/Brown wire.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you have the flasher out there should be continui=
ty between X and L and X and P.=C2=A0 It won&#39;t go open until the curren=
t flow is high enough to heat the bimetallic strip and open the circuit.=C2=
=A0 An ohmmeter won&#39;t flow enough current to open
 it.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If you have a newer electronic flasher it depends on=
 what kind you have.=C2=A0 Generally they&#39;ll start flashing as soon as =
there&#39;s any path to ground.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">You don&#39;t want a &quot;really&quot; new flasher =
that fast flashes when there&#39;s a bulb out.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What&#39;s your problem?=C2=A0 =C2=A0No light?=C2=A0=
 Light all the time?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"all">
<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ben Zwissler<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"mailto:bjzwissler@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noref=
errer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">bjzwissler@gmail.com</a><u></u><u></u><=
/p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">812-343-5533<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Columbus, IN<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
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5519b59214@ranteer.com</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
The blinker module on this car is likely not original.<br>
<br>
It has 3 tabs, labeled L, P, X<br>
<br>
I think its bad; seemed hot when I pulled it out after testing the blinkers=
.<br>
<br>
How do I test it?<br>
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