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Great point. This is not that kit. Mounts to lever mounting holes and that=
=E2=80=99s it. Jim
> On Mar 24, 2021, at 2:05 PM, glewis999 <glewis999@aol.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF On some rear shocker conversions to the IRS, the shocker mountin=
g bracket is bolted to the car=E2=80=99s body as well as to the mounting poi=
nts for the original lever arm shocks. This might account for the ride heigh=
t.
> Graham
>=20
>=20
> Sent from the all-new AOL app for iOS
>=20
> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 5:49 pm, Brian K <bk13@earthlink.net> wrote:=
>=20
> Simple test on the rear shock conversion - disconnect one end of the shock=
and slide it out of the way. Roll the car a little with the shock out of th=
e way then measure again. Don't drive this way.
>=20
> Like other replies, I would not expect the tube shocks to provide lift.
>=20
> Brian
>=20
> On Mar 24, 2021 4:37 AM, Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com> wrote:
> Great thoughts and much appreciated. I believe the higher rear height is f=
rom the steel brackets used in the tube shock conversion kit, but I could be=
wrong. Let me drive it some more and get it loosened up and then measure a=
gain and also include measuring floor to frame on each corner. I need to do=
something as it doesn=E2=80=99t quite look right visually either and a TR h=
as to look right when it sits. In my opinion. Thanks
> Jim
>=20
> > On Mar 23, 2021, at 9:17 PM, Michael Marr <mmarr@albiontechnical.com> wr=
ote:
> >=20
> > =EF=BB=BFAnother thought. On my TR3A, there is a spacer on one of the r=
ear springs that, effectively, increases the unloaded ride height on the dri=
ver's side to account for the fact that the car is driven driver-only most o=
f the time. Does the same situation exist with the 4A? Is one rear spring l=
onger than the other to provide the ride height difference? Have you tried m=
easuring the ride height with someone (an adult, preferably) in the driver's=
seat?
> >=20
> > Mike
> >=20
> > Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.
> > Albion Technical Services
> > W5918 Hackbarth Rd
> > Fort Atkinson, WI 53538
> >=20
> > Cell: 630-202-0065
> > Email: mmarr@albiontechnical.com
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Ma=
rr
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 8:03 PM
> > To: Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com>; triumphs@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A IRS Suspension Question
> >=20
> > Have you driven the car? A few road miles will help the suspension sett=
le. There's a lot of "stiction" in those new components.
> >=20
> > Also, I agree with Jim Kirby - the new shocks will not affect ride heigh=
t, unless, for some reason, they have bottomed out and are bound up.
> >=20
> > Mike
> >=20
> > Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.
> > Albion Technical Services
> > W5918 Hackbarth Rd
> > Fort Atkinson, WI 53538
> >=20
> > Cell: 630-202-0065
> > Email: mmarr@albiontechnical.com
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jim Hennin=
gsen
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 7:06 PM
> > To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> > Subject: [TR] TR4A IRS Suspension Question
> >=20
> > Ok, just finished redoing front and rear suspension on my 67 4A IRS.
> > Complete disassembly, clean, repaint, new urethane bushings, tie rod end=
s, trunnions, etc. New comp springs ( 1 inch lower) all corners, new stock t=
ubes shocks up front and new KYB gas shocks on the tube shock conversion bra=
ckets for the IRS. Reinstalled all alignment shims as installed as the car d=
rove pretty straight. Urethane packings on springs.=20
> >=20
> > After completing, I noticed that all four corners have a slightly differ=
ent ride height when measured from garage floor to bottom on fender lip at c=
enter of each wheel. Left front: 26 3/4 inches, Right front: 26 1/4, Left
> > rear: 27 3/8, right rear: 27 7/8. I think the higher rear height is com=
ing
> > from the tube shock conversion as it was lower with the levers. So ab=
out
> > a half inch off each side. I don't recall having this issue when I red=
id
> > my TR6, but that was a while ago. Rears also have stock trailing arm
> > brackets (one and two notch brackets on each side - believe these are or=
iginal from new given history of the car). =20
> >=20
> > Looking for help on next steps before bringing it in for an alignment. W=
ill alignment correct height difference or do I need to add 1/2 inch spacers=
on lower sides. I am going to put uprated valved levers back on rear to el=
iminate the extra height in rear. =20
> >=20
> > Any help appreciated. =20
> >=20
> > Thanks
> > Jim Henningsen
> > Ocala FL
> > Too many TRs to maintain!
> > 61 3A
> > 62 4
> > 67 4A
> > 75 6
> > 81 8
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Great point. This is=
not that kit. Mounts to lever mounting holes and that=E2=80=99s it. J=
im</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 24, 2021, at 2=
:05 PM, glewis999 <glewis999@aol.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml=
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On some rear shocker conversions to the IRS, the shocker mounting bracket is=
bolted to the car=E2=80=99s body as well as to the mounting points for the o=
riginal lever arm shocks. This might account for the ride height.<div>Graham=
<br><br><br><a href=3D"https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-=
video/id646100661">Sent from the all-new AOL app for iOS</a><br><br><p class=
=3D"yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-to=
p: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 5:49 pm, Brian K <b=
k13@earthlink.net> wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yi=
v7144059350"><div><div>Simple test on the rear shock conversion - disconnect=
one end of the shock and slide it out of the way. Roll the car a little wit=
h the shock out of the way then measure again. Don't drive this way.<div><br=
clear=3D"none"></div><div>Like other replies, I would not expect the tube s=
hocks to provide lift.<br clear=3D"none"><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>=
Brian</div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv7144059350gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"=
none"><div class=3D"yiv7144059350yqt9249108226" id=3D"yiv7144059350yqtfd3047=
4"><div class=3D"yiv7144059350gmail_quote">On Mar 24, 2021 4:37 AM, Jim Henn=
ingsen <trguy75@gmail.com> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D=
"yiv7144059350quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex;"><p dir=3D"ltr">Great thoughts and much appreciated. I=
believe the higher rear height is from the steel brackets used in the tube s=
hock conversion kit, but I could be wrong. Let me drive it some m=
ore and get it loosened up and then measure again and also include measuring=
floor to frame on each corner. I need to do something as it doesn=E2=80=
=99t quite look right visually either and a TR has to look right when it sit=
s. In my opinion. Thanks<br clear=3D"none">
Jim<br clear=3D"none"></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">> On Mar 23, 2021, at 9:17 PM, Michael Marr <mmarr@albi=
ontechnical.com> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> =EF=BB=BFAnother thought. On my TR3A, there is a spacer on one of=
the rear springs that, effectively, increases the unloaded ride height on t=
he driver's side to account for the fact that the car is driven driver-only m=
ost of the time. Does the same situation exist with the 4A? Is o=
ne rear spring longer than the other to provide the ride height difference?&=
nbsp; Have you tried measuring the ride height with someone (an adult, prefe=
rably) in the driver's seat?<br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> Mike<br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.<br clear=3D"none">
> Albion Technical Services<br clear=3D"none">
> W5918 Hackbarth Rd<br clear=3D"none">
> Fort Atkinson, WI 53538<br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> Cell: 630-202-0065<br clear=3D"none">
> Email: mmarr@albiontechnical.com<br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> -----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mic=
hael Marr<br clear=3D"none">
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 8:03 PM<br clear=3D"none">
> To: Jim Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com>; triumphs@autox.team.net<b=
r clear=3D"none">
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A IRS Suspension Question<br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> Have you driven the car? A few road miles will help the suspensio=
n settle. There's a lot of "stiction" in those new components.<br clea=
r=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> Also, I agree with Jim Kirby - the new shocks will not affect ride heig=
ht, unless, for some reason, they have bottomed out and are bound up.<br cle=
ar=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> Mike<br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> Michael J Marr, P.E., CEng.<br clear=3D"none">
> Albion Technical Services<br clear=3D"none">
> W5918 Hackbarth Rd<br clear=3D"none">
> Fort Atkinson, WI 53538<br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> Cell: 630-202-0065<br clear=3D"none">
> Email: mmarr@albiontechnical.com<br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> -----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jim=
Henningsen<br clear=3D"none">
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 7:06 PM<br clear=3D"none">
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net<br clear=3D"none">
> Subject: [TR] TR4A IRS Suspension Question<br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> Ok, just finished redoing front and rear suspension on my 67 4A IRS.<br=
clear=3D"none">
> Complete disassembly, clean, repaint, new urethane bushings, tie rod en=
ds, trunnions, etc. New comp springs ( 1 inch lower) all corners, new s=
tock tubes shocks up front and new KYB gas shocks on the tube shock conversi=
on brackets for the IRS. Reinstalled all alignment shims as installed a=
s the car drove pretty straight. Urethane packings on springs. <br cle=
ar=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> After completing, I noticed that all four corners have a slightly diffe=
rent ride height when measured from garage floor to bottom on fender lip at c=
enter of each wheel. Left front: 26 3/4 inches, Right front: 26 1/4, L=
eft<br clear=3D"none">
> rear: 27 3/8, right rear: 27 7/8. I think the higher rear height i=
s coming<br clear=3D"none">
> from the tube shock conversion as it was lower with the levers. &n=
bsp; So about<br clear=3D"none">
> a half inch off each side. I don't recall having this issue=
when I redid<br clear=3D"none">
> my TR6, but that was a while ago. Rears also have stock tra=
iling arm<br clear=3D"none">
> brackets (one and two notch brackets on each side - believe these are o=
riginal from new given history of the car). <br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> Looking for help on next steps before bringing it in for an alignment.&=
nbsp; Will alignment correct height difference or do I need to add 1/2 inch s=
pacers on lower sides. I am going to put uprated valved levers back on=
rear to eliminate the extra height in rear. <br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> Any help appreciated. <br clear=3D"none">
> <br clear=3D"none">
> Thanks<br clear=3D"none">
> Jim Henningsen<br clear=3D"none">
> Ocala FL<br clear=3D"none">
> Too many TRs to maintain!<br clear=3D"none">
> 61 3A<br clear=3D"none">
> 62 4<br clear=3D"none">
> 67 4A<br clear=3D"none">
> 75 6<br clear=3D"none">
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