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Re: [TR] Should I put Redline MT-90 in my Triumph diff?

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Subject: Re: [TR] Should I put Redline MT-90 in my Triumph diff?
From: Dave MacKay <dave@mdmackay.ca>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 14:42:03 -0500
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 Sujit Roy triumphstag@gmail.com asked:



>Anything against putting this stuff in my diff. I have in  my manual
gearbox in my Stag



I looked into this when trying to find an appropriate fluif for my TR3A=E2=
=80=99s
differential. I don=E2=80=99t know how relevant this would be to your Stag,=
 but
I=E2=80=99ll offer it up anyway.



The contributors to his list showed a preference for:

- Redline GL-5 75W90, or

- Royal Purple Synchromax 75W90, or

- Kendall Gear Oil, 75W



With that in mine, I contacted Red Line Oil, the makers of MT90. They
replied that =E2=80=9CThe TR3A differential originally called for an SAE 90=
 GL-4
and the MT-90 would be recommended=E2=80=9D. When I asked about the caution=
 on
their web site that =E2=80=9CMT-90 are not for use in differentials with hy=
poid
gears=E2=80=9D, Red Line responded that =E2=80=9CThe note on our GL-4 gear =
oils refers to
use in a high offset hypoid application which your Triumph doesn=E2=80=99t =
contain.
The GL-4 gear oils are suitable in zero and low offset ring and pinion
applications.=E2=80=9D



The late (and much missed) Randall Young advised that =E2=80=9CMT90 has fri=
ction
additives=E2=80=9D and felt that one would want friction in a transmission =
but not
in a differential.



When I asked Red Line about the friction additives, they replied that =E2=
=80=9CIf
you wanted a more slippery product one of our GL-5 gear oils such as the
75W90 or 75W110 would be options, they contain a friction modifier and are
compatible with phosphor-bronze as they contain a copper deactivator=E2=80=
=9D. Red
Line summed up by saying =E2=80=9CIn your differential technically either c=
ould be
used, the 75W90 contains a friction modifier beneficial overall for
friction and temperature reduction.=E2=80=9D



As a result of that investigation, I=E2=80=99m using Redline GL-5 75W90 in =
my
TR3A=E2=80=99s differential. I use the MT90 in the gearbox. I=E2=80=99ve ha=
d no issues and
noticed no ill effects when I examined the diff during a rebuild last year.



However, the Red Line oils are hard to come by where I live, and are quite
expensive (about $25/litre). Some of the other TR3 owners locally have been
using Sta-Lube GL4 85W90 Gear Oil which is about half the price of the Red
Line products and is readily available from NAPA.



Regards,



Dave MacKay

1960 Triumph TR3A, s/n 68639L

near Toronto, Canada

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tyle=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 Sujit Roy <a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gmail.com=
">triumphstag@gmail.com</a> asked:</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">&gt;Anything against putting this stuff in my diff. I ha=
ve in=C2=A0 my manual gearbox in my Stag</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I looked into this when trying to find an appropri=
ate fluif for my TR3A=E2=80=99s differential. I don=E2=80=99t know how rele=
vant this would be to your Stag, but I=E2=80=99ll offer it up anyway.</p><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The contributors to h=
is list showed a preference for: </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">- Redline GL-5 =
75W90, or</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">- Royal Purple Synchromax 75W90, or</p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">- Kendall Gear Oil, 75W</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">With that in mine, I contacted Red Line Oi=
l, the makers of MT90. They replied that =E2=80=9CThe TR3A differential ori=
ginally called for an SAE 90 GL-4 and the MT-90 would be recommended=E2=80=
=9D. When I asked about the caution on their web site that =E2=80=9CMT-90 a=
re not for use in differentials with hypoid gears=E2=80=9D, Red Line respon=
ded that =E2=80=9CThe note on our GL-4 gear oils refers to use in a high of=
fset hypoid application which your Triumph doesn=E2=80=99t contain. The GL-=
4 gear oils are suitable in zero and low offset ring and pinion application=
s.=E2=80=9D </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The=
 late (and much missed) Randall Young advised that =E2=80=9CMT90 has fricti=
on additives=E2=80=9D and felt that one would want friction in a transmissi=
on but not in a differential.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">When I asked Red Line about the friction additives, they rep=
lied that =E2=80=9CIf you wanted a more slippery product one of our GL-5 ge=
ar oils such as the 75W90 or 75W110 would be options, they contain a fricti=
on modifier and are compatible with phosphor-bronze as they contain a coppe=
r deactivator=E2=80=9D. Red Line summed up by saying =E2=80=9CIn your diffe=
rential technically either could be used, the 75W90 contains a friction mod=
ifier beneficial overall for friction and temperature reduction.=E2=80=9D</=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">As a result of th=
at investigation, I=E2=80=99m using Redline GL-5 75W90 in my TR3A=E2=80=99s=
 differential. I use the MT90 in the gearbox. I=E2=80=99ve had no issues an=
d noticed no ill effects when I examined the diff during a rebuild last yea=
r.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">However, the =
Red Line oils are hard to come by where I live, and are quite expensive (ab=
out $25/litre). Some of the other TR3 owners locally have been using Sta-Lu=
be GL4 85W90 Gear Oil which is about half the price of the Red Line product=
s and is readily available from NAPA.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#2f549=
6">=C2=A0</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regards,</p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dave MacKay</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">1=
960 Triumph TR3A, s/n 68639L</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">near Toronto, Canada=
</p></div></body></html>

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