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To: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net> paQ+a84pfQ6xHf5Fw3xKhwUgy1+Z6I4sWyfIh2cj/B+sD4YGJ8+E/xsqP9orFB2gTrFd4k/cINgp0vk63S+XqhSS+S6LhSSuIdFp4eUYZuuJPYrHJSsBbw4v HHt/D17AxxOtNtN9tL2lEabIl5cAD9XqQuw9sw2E/5gejra4MlXCK88hfAt0yKvOx1pX2cxJQteQGLdQz+uFCA==
Subject: Re: [TR] Commission Plate Rivets
From: Tom Householder <trhouse@columbus.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 14:10:00 -0400
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I looked into this once and believe it is called a blind rivet=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6 Could be mistaken=E2=80=A6.. long time ago



> On Jun 20, 2020, at 12:08 PM, DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net> wrote:
>=20
> This is excellent information and a detail most would overlook.  I =
reduced the cap diameter of an otherwise correctly sized aluminum pop =
rivet then glued a short length of the shaft in place to smoothly fill =
the hole.  It's very difficult to tell the difference from the factory =
rivet.  I thought this detail was important and I kept the original =
commission plate although it shows it's age.=20
> Dave H.  =20
>> On 06/20/2020 8:47 AM Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> Yes, I think I was able to find the correct rivets for both early =
cars (a drive rivet, not a "pop" rivet) and late cars (a closed-end =
rivet).  If not exact, they're *very* close.  I probably have many =
dozens of them -- certainly several lifetime's supply -- because I had =
to order a bunch to get a few.
>>=20
>> Here's are details front and back of the early drive rivet.
>> =
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/0/a2ee6789/O/i-KX88bMw.jpg =
<https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/0/a2ee6789/O/i-KX88bMw.jpg>=20=

>> =
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>>=20
>> Send me a note off-list, Brian, and we'll see what we can do.
>>=20
>> BR,
>>=20
>> Don
>> Saint Louis Missouri
>> 1962 TR3B TSF202L
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:35 AM Brian Thomas < thomasb@queensu.ca =
>> Hi,=20
>>=20
>> I'm looking to replicate the 4 rivets used to mount the commission =
plate on my TR2. =20
>>=20
>> Pop rivets I am familiar with have a hollow center when the rivet is =
installed.  The ones used to hold the plate leaves a metal cap in this =
opening. =20
>>=20
>> Has anyone had success finding this type of rivet? =20
>>=20
>> FYI, Rimmers shows "713531 - Pop Rivet - Closed End Type - 1/8 inch x =
1/4 inch" for this application and TRF subs 554407 for this.  As 554407 =
is also used to hold down the chrome capping on the top of a TR4A =
windshield (which I have), I had a look and the rivets used there are =
also hollow ...=20
>>=20
>> Cheers,=20
>>=20
>> Brian=20
>> _____________________________________________________=20
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TR4A, =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">I looked into this once and believe it is called a blind =
rivet=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 Could be mistaken=E2=80=A6.. long time ago<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jun 20, 2020, at 12:08 PM, DAVE HOGYE &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net"; class=3D"">dlhogye@comcast.net</a>&gt;=
 wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">

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  <meta charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D"">=20
=20
 <div class=3D"">
  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, =
sans-serif; color: #333333;" class=3D"">
   <span id=3D"_mce_caret" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
helvetica; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">This is excellent information =
and a detail most would overlook.&nbsp; I reduced the cap diameter of an =
otherwise correctly sized aluminum pop rivet then glued a short length =
of the shaft in place to smoothly fill the hole.&nbsp; It's very =
difficult to tell the difference from the factory rivet.&nbsp; I thought =
this detail was important and I kept the original commission plate =
although it shows it's age.&nbsp;</span></span>
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, =
sans-serif; color: #333333;" class=3D"">
   <span id=3D"_mce_caret" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
helvetica; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">Dave =
H.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span>
   <br class=3D"">
  </div>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
   <div class=3D"">
    On 06/20/2020 8:47 AM Don Hiscock &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">don.hiscock@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    <br class=3D"">
   </div>
   <div class=3D"">
    <br class=3D"">
   </div>
   <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">
    Yes, I think&nbsp;I was able to find the correct rivets for both =
early cars (a drive rivet, not a "pop" rivet) and late cars (a =
closed-end rivet).&nbsp; If not exact, they're *very* close.&nbsp; I =
probably have many dozens of them -- certainly several lifetime's supply =
-- because I had to order a bunch to get a few.
    <div class=3D"">
     <br class=3D"">
    </div>
    <div class=3D"">
     Here's are details front&nbsp;and back of the early drive rivet.
    </div>
    <div class=3D"">
     <a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/0/a2ee6789/O/i-KX88bMw=
.jpg" =
class=3D"">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-KX88bMw/0/a2ee6789/O/i-KX88=
bMw.jpg</a>
     <br class=3D"">
     <div class=3D"">
      <a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-LdxQ2BM/0/c84b7900/O/i-LdxQ2BM=
.jpg" =
class=3D"">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-LdxQ2BM/0/c84b7900/O/i-LdxQ=
2BM.jpg</a>
      <br class=3D"">
     </div>
     <div class=3D"">
      <br class=3D"">
     </div>
     <div class=3D"">
      Send me a note off-list, Brian, and we'll see what we can do.
     </div>
     <div class=3D"">
      <br class=3D"">
     </div>
     <div class=3D"">
      BR,
     </div>
     <div class=3D"">
      <br class=3D"">
     </div>
     <div class=3D"">
      Don
     </div>
     <div class=3D"">
      Saint Louis Missouri
     </div>
     <div class=3D"">
      1962 TR3B TSF202L
     </div>
     <div class=3D"">
      <br class=3D"">
     </div>
    </div>
   </div>
   <br class=3D"">
   <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
    <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">
     On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:35 AM Brian Thomas &lt;
     <a href=3D"mailto:thomasb@queensu.ca"; =
class=3D"">thomasb@queensu.ca</a>&gt; wrote:
     <br class=3D"">
    </div>
    <blockquote class=3D"">
     Hi,
     <br class=3D"">
     <br class=3D"">I'm looking to replicate the 4 rivets used to mount =
the commission plate on my TR2.&nbsp;=20
     <br class=3D"">
     <br class=3D"">Pop rivets I am familiar with have a hollow center =
when the rivet is installed.&nbsp; The ones used to hold the plate =
leaves a metal cap in this opening.&nbsp;=20
     <br class=3D"">
     <br class=3D"">Has anyone had success finding this type of =
rivet?&nbsp;=20
     <br class=3D"">
     <br class=3D"">FYI, Rimmers shows "713531 - Pop Rivet - Closed End =
Type - 1/8 inch x 1/4 inch" for this application and TRF subs 554407 for =
this.&nbsp; As 554407 is also used to hold down the chrome capping on =
the top of a TR4A windshield (which I have), I had a look and the rivets =
used there are also hollow ...
     <br class=3D"">
     <br class=3D"">Cheers,
     <br class=3D"">
     <br class=3D"">Brian
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