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Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] TR250/TR6 fuel pumps
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 12:47:57 +0000 (UTC)
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 Those SU pumps had a major weakness, the points.=C2=A0 The points get dirt=
y and no longer conduct current to the coil.=C2=A0 The modern after market =
pumps are electronic and have no such problem.=C2=A0 Plus, these new pumps =
have no seals or diaphragms that can cause a leak.=C2=A0 I've had two mecha=
nical pumps fail on me although not the catastrophic failure where your cra=
nkcase gets filled with gasoline.=C2=A0 Not a possibility with an electric =
pump.
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Elliott <elliottr@rmi.net>
To: triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Jan 5, 2020 3:58 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] TR250/TR6 fuel pumps

 We go on a drive (400 - 600 miles) every year with a bunch of MGs,=C2=A0 w=
hich come electric pumps, and Triumphs. Most, if not all, MGs carry a spare=
 electric pump that they can put in line quickly if one fails.=C2=A0 It has=
n't happened in the last few years, but for quite a while it was normal for=
 for at least one electric pump to go out on the drive.=C2=A0 There has nev=
er been a mechanical pump failure that I recall.
  I think, we have replaced the mechanical pump in my Spitfire and my wife'=
s TR250 once each in over 30 years of owning both of them. Although, I did =
have to repair the one on the TR250, by staking the valve in place.
  I am happy with the mechanical ones.
  Roger
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  On 1/5/20 8:42 AM, DAVID MASSEY wrote:
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  I've run the same electric pump on my TR6 since the 1990's and it hasn't =
missed a beat (no pun intended).=20
  That said, I still have the original style pump on the TR3 for concours r=
easons.
  =20
  Dave=20
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  -----Original Message-----
 From: Bob via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
 To: dctr6 <dctr6@optonline.net>; 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
 Cc: triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
 Sent: Sat, Jan 4, 2020 2:36 pm
 Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR250/TR6 fuel pumps
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   Dennis, I know this issue has been thrown around since the lists started=
 but why not convert to an electronic pump? I have been running an electron=
ic pump on my 3 for 20 years, my 4 for 15 and my 6 for 10. Zero issues. And=
 no oil leaks from the pump or where it attaches to the block. No worry if =
the cam is too warn out to operate the lever. Bob
   On 1/4/20 2:40 PM, dctr6@optonline.net wrote:
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=A0 Does anybody know what the difference is between the fuel pump that Mos=
s sells for $29.99 and the  one that the Roadster Factory sells for $99 (be=
sides the $70 price discrepancy)? They appear the same  in the catalogs. I =
have traditionally bought from TRF and I believe the one they sell is made =
in Italy? Can  the recently retired Peter Arkelian shed any light on this?=
=C2=A0 Thanks. =C2=A0 Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U    =
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<div> <font size="3">Those SU pumps had a major weakness, the points.&nbsp; The 
points get dirty and no longer conduct current to the coil.&nbsp; The modern 
after market pumps are electronic and have no such problem.&nbsp; Plus, these 
new pumps have no seals or diaphragms that can cause a leak.&nbsp; I've had two 
mechanical pumps fail on me although not the catastrophic failure where your 
crankcase gets filled with gasoline.&nbsp; Not a possibility with an electric 
pump.</font><br>
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<div style="clear:both"><font size="4">Dave </font><br>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original 
Message-----<br>
From: Roger Elliott &lt;elliottr@rmi.net&gt;<br>
To: triumphs &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Sun, Jan 5, 2020 3:58 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] TR250/TR6 fuel pumps<br>
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<div>We go on a drive (400 - 600 miles) every year with a bunch of
      MGs,&nbsp; which come electric pumps, and Triumphs. Most, if not all,
      MGs carry a spare electric pump that they can put in line quickly
      if one fails.&nbsp; It hasn't happened in the last few years, but for
      quite a while it was normal for for at least one electric pump to
      go out on the drive.&nbsp; There has never been a mechanical pump
      failure that I recall.<br clear="none">
    </div>

    
<div>I think, we have replaced the mechanical pump in my Spitfire and
      my wife's TR250 once each in over 30 years of owning both of them.
      Although, I did have to repair the one on the TR250, by staking
      the valve in place.<br clear="none">
    </div>

    
<div>I am happy with the mechanical ones.<br clear="none">
    </div>

    
<div>Roger<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv8696829280moz-cite-prefix">On 1/5/20 8:42 AM, DAVID MASSEY 
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<div><font size="3">I've run the same electric pump on my TR6
            since the 1990's and it hasn't missed a beat (no pun
            intended).</font></div>

        
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<div><font size="3">That said, I still have the original style
            pump on the TR3 for concours reasons.</font><br clear="none">
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<div>Dennis,</div>

              
<div>I know this issue has been thrown around since the
                lists started but why not convert to an electronic pump?
                I have been running an electronic pump on my 3 for 20
                years, my 4 for 15 and my 6 for 10. Zero issues. And no
                oil leaks from the pump or where it attaches to the
                block. No worry if the cam is too warn out to operate
                the lever.</div>

              
<div>Bob<br clear="none">
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class="yiv8696829280moz-txt-link-abbreviated">dctr6@optonline.net</a>
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<div class="yiv8696829280MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; Does anybody
                    know what the difference is between the fuel pump
                    that Moss sells for $29.99 and the </div>

                  
<div class="yiv8696829280MsoNormal">one that the
                    Roadster Factory sells for $99 (besides the $70
                    price discrepancy)? They appear the same </div>

                  
<div class="yiv8696829280MsoNormal">in the catalogs. I
                    have traditionally bought from TRF and I believe the
                    one they sell is made in Italy? Can </div>

                  
<div class="yiv8696829280MsoNormal">the recently
                    retired Peter Arkelian shed any light on this?&nbsp;
                    Thanks. &nbsp;</div>

                  
<div class="yiv8696829280MsoNormal">Dennis Culligan,
                    Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U</div>

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