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Dunno about that, John, with all due respect. I've been part of a number
of discussions on the TR Register (UK) forum, where I spend a lot more TR
time than anywhere else, and there are numerous threads with comments by
folks who know TR engines and oil very well (including one who's built and
raced a national champion TR4) who use UK-sourced oils with ZDDP. Classic
Oils is one brand among several that come to mind, and folks in the UK have
appreciated the clarity with which that company discusses Zn levels -- not
all suppliers are so forthcoming, nor as trusted.
BR,
Don
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 3:47 AM, John Macartney <
john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk> wrote:
> I think it=E2=80=99s important to mention that while a lot of people on t=
his list
> live in the US and Canada, there are more than just a few who live
> elsewhere =E2=80=93 i.e. Europe and Australia/New Zealand. AFAIK, many lu=
bricants
> in those countries differ in specification to those commonly available in
> North America. Additionally, it seems that those outside N.A. prefer to u=
se
> =E2=80=98classic=E2=80=99 oils which are blended specifically for the cla=
ssic car market
> and while they do include a number of lubricant =E2=80=98enhancers=E2=80=
=99 to improve oil
> performance. I refer particularly to 20/50 type mineral oils and these do
> not need ZDDP.
>
>
>
> Jonmac
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Dorsey
> *Sent:* 09 September 2018 21:22
> *To:* Triumph list Team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [TR] ZSounds like most forgot something about the DDP?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *ZDDPlus Engine Oil Additive*
>
> *After 70+ years of trouble-free, metal to metal engine protection, the
> E.P.A. is forcing ZDDP (Zinc Dialkyl Dithio Phosphate =3D Zinc and
> Phosphorus) out*
>
> *of domestic motor oil. If your engine was designed prior to*
>
> *the 1990s, your non-roller*
>
> *lifters require ZDDP in your motor oil to avoid premature deterioration.
> Don't let your lifters run metal-to-metal. Add the 4 fluid ounce contents
> of this ZDDPlus bottle at every 4 to*
>
> *5 quart oil change. Not for use with catalytic converters.*
>
> *ZDDPlus, each 220-805 ZDDPlus, case of 25 220-908*
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Dunno about that, John, with all due respect.=C2=A0 I'=
ve been part of a number of discussions on the TR Register (UK) forum, wher=
e I spend a lot more TR time than anywhere else, and there are numerous thr=
eads with comments by folks who know TR engines and oil very well (includin=
g one who's built and raced a national champion TR4) who use UK-sourced=
oils with ZDDP.=C2=A0 Classic Oils is one brand among several that come to=
mind, and folks in the UK have appreciated the clarity with which that com=
pany discusses Zn levels -- not all suppliers are so forthcoming, nor as tr=
usted.<div><br></div><div>BR,</div><div><br></div><div>Don</div></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 a=
t 3:47 AM, John Macartney <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:john.maca=
rtney@ukpips.org.uk" target=3D"_blank">john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a>>=
</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-GB" link=
=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3D"m_-4724153261444569364WordSect=
ion1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I think it=E2=80=99s important to mentio=
n that while a lot of people on this list live in the US and Canada, there =
are more than just a few who live elsewhere =E2=80=93 i.e. Europe and Austr=
alia/New Zealand. AFAIK, many lubricants in those countries differ in speci=
fication to those commonly available in North America. Additionally, it see=
ms that those outside N.A. prefer to use =E2=80=98classic=E2=80=99 oils whi=
ch are blended specifically for the classic car market and while they do in=
clude a number of lubricant =E2=80=98enhancers=E2=80=99 to improve oil perf=
ormance. I refer particularly to 20/50 type mineral oils and these do not n=
eed ZDDP.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Jonmac<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.<wbr>net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>P=
aul Dorsey<br><b>Sent:</b> 09 September 2018 21:22<br><b>To:</b> Triumph li=
st Team.net <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank=
">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] ZSounds like most=
forgot something about the DDP?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p style=3D"margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt">=
<b><span style=3D"font-size:19.0pt;font-family:".SFUIText-Semibold&quo=
t;,serif;color:#454545">=C2=A0</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:14.5pt;fo=
nt-family:".SF UI Text",serif;color:#454545"><u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p style=3D"margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-stretch:normal;min-h=
eight:22.7px"><b><span style=3D"font-size:19.0pt;font-family:".SFUITex=
t-Semibold",serif;color:#454545">=C2=A0</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:14.5pt;font-family:".SF UI Text",serif;color:#454545"><u></u=
><u></u></span></p><p style=3D"margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-stretc=
h:normal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:19.0pt;font-family:".SFUIText-Se=
mibold",serif;color:#454545">ZDDPlus Engine Oil Additive</span></b><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:14.5pt;font-family:".SF UI Text",serif;colo=
r:#454545"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=3D"margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0=
001pt;font-stretch:normal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:19.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;.SFUIText-Semibold",serif;color:#454545">After 70+ years of troub=
le-free, metal to metal engine protection, the E.P.A. is forcing ZDDP (Zinc=
Dialkyl Dithio Phosphate =3D Zinc and Phosphorus) out</span></b><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:14.5pt;font-family:".SF UI Text",serif;color:#4545=
45"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=3D"margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;f=
ont-stretch:normal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:19.0pt;font-family:".S=
FUIText-Semibold",serif;color:#454545">of domestic motor oil. If your =
engine was designed prior to</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:14.5pt;font=
-family:".SF UI Text",serif;color:#454545"><u></u><u></u></span><=
/p><p style=3D"margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-stretch:normal"><b><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:19.0pt;font-family:".SFUIText-Semibold",ser=
if;color:#454545">the 1990s, your non-roller</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:14.5pt;font-family:".SF UI Text",serif;color:#454545"><u></u=
><u></u></span></p><p style=3D"margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-stretc=
h:normal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:19.0pt;font-family:".SFUIText-Se=
mibold",serif;color:#454545">lifters require ZDDP in your motor oil to=
avoid premature deterioration. Don't let your lifters run metal-to-met=
al. Add the 4 fluid ounce contents of this ZDDPlus bottle at every 4 to</sp=
an></b><span style=3D"font-size:14.5pt;font-family:".SF UI Text",=
serif;color:#454545"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=3D"margin:0cm;margin=
-bottom:.0001pt;font-stretch:normal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:19.0pt;fon=
t-family:".SFUIText-Semibold",serif;color:#454545">5 quart oil ch=
ange. Not for use with catalytic converters.</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:14.5pt;font-family:".SF UI Text",serif;color:#454545"><u></u=
><u></u></span></p><p style=3D"margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-stretc=
h:normal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:19.0pt;font-family:".SFUIText-Se=
mibold",serif;color:#454545">ZDDPlus, each 220-805 ZDDPlus, case of 25=
220-908</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:14.5pt;font-family:".SF UI=
Text",serif;color:#454545"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id=3D"=
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