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Re: [TR] Starting a dry engine advice sought

To: Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Starting a dry engine advice sought
From: Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 16:17:21 -0400
Cc: "Triumph list Team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>, Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>, TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>
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Don=E2=80=99t we have flat tappet engines? Why do they need to rotate?

On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 2:58 PM Rye Livingston <ryel@mac.com> wrote:

> FYI - if a little zinc is good, a lot is NOT better. Things get too
> slippery and the tappets don=E2=80=99t rotate on the cam lobes. I learned=
 this the
> hard way and the machine shop informed me of the error of too much zinc.
>
> So either Valvoline, Brad Penn or Kendall that have ZDDP, or half a bottl=
e
> of Red Line break-in oil per instructions, is the way to go.
>
> Rye
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 9, 2018, at 7:24 AM, Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >> Five or 10 years ago I didn't think there was much of an
> >> zinc ingredient in  Valvoline racing oil. Have things Change D?
> >
> > There was a brief period where they reduced it slightly; but Valvoline
> > Racing has always had ZDDP in it.  It's not entirely clear to me that 9=
00
> > PPM is worse than 1100 PPM as long as you change oil frequently; more
> just
> > lets you run the oil longer before it is depleted.  But the consumer
> > reaction was apparently enough to convince them to put it back up.
> >
> > -- Randall
> >
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<div>Don=E2=80=99t we have flat tappet engines? Why do they need to rotate?=
</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Sep 9, 2=
018 at 2:58 PM Rye Livingston &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ryel@mac.com";>ryel@mac.=
com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">FYI - if a littl=
e zinc is good, a lot is NOT better. Things get too slippery and the tappet=
s don=E2=80=99t rotate on the cam lobes. I learned this the hard way and th=
e machine shop informed me of the error of too much zinc.<br>
<br>
So either Valvoline, Brad Penn or Kendall that have ZDDP, or half a bottle =
of Red Line break-in oil per instructions, is the way to go.<br>
<br>
Rye<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
On Sep 9, 2018, at 7:24 AM, Randall &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr3driver@ca.rr.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">tr3driver@ca.rr.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;&gt; Five or 10 years ago I didn&#39;t think there was much of an=C2=A0=
 <br>
&gt;&gt; zinc ingredient in=C2=A0 Valvoline racing oil. Have things Change =
D?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; There was a brief period where they reduced it slightly; but Valvoline=
<br>
&gt; Racing has always had ZDDP in it.=C2=A0 It&#39;s not entirely clear to=
 me that 900<br>
&gt; PPM is worse than 1100 PPM as long as you change oil frequently; more =
just<br>
&gt; lets you run the oil longer before it is depleted.=C2=A0 But the consu=
mer<br>
&gt; reaction was apparently enough to convince them to put it back up.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; -- Randall<br>
&gt; <br>
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