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Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question

To: "Wbeech@flash.net" <wbeech@flash.net> s=q20140121; t=1457808568; bh=8dSF0kX3SH29OeE85HeT8eQ02twTeoJeNielmKdIb/A=; h=Received:Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=Vdre+A90HJsxX5SIOPa2a8zndWflENHueWVgHNzsXPddCLiDt7UVQk+dEqkGwIGh5 yxiSHrz+cbgp6hNIi9zGiJ+XOB2ceN1TkJFgPei6cYNOaw8ER4ft2c2A1u9kCE/a2K IgcIlMkaXQEs+aWEROt9CcyLI8Sn3RApRUAELiWKDAsYtYkGVR+s+HQ3LtOxFlb9VM CTE0nG4naXV9vXGsOIi/l+MjflfmYZmZfiy3b9IK/qT1Qp3RdtfTvPqtT0QXnSBXcX xyikPKNUJO+lrEWC1OzB4I5Wy0qWzwvz85oHSOU/VwQyElYb/vZUu8UvIEYQIQlzpF Xjvv5UtI7vDwA==
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question
From: Bud R <levilevi@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 11:49:26 -0700
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I solved the too high fuel pressure on ZS carbs with a fuel pressure =
regulator. Even a cheap one will work but don=92t depend on the markings =
on the regulator. You need to hook up a vacuum gage to set it to about 1 =
1/2 to 2 psi. At least that=92s what my TR6 ZS carbs liked best.

Bud Rolofson

Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
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On Mar 12, 2016, at 8:14 AM, Wbeech@flash.net <wbeech@flash.net> wrote:

> Ditto Dave.  =20
> Just had that same problem with a recent non-TR acquisition.   PO had =
installed the higher pressure pump and the car instantly flooded as soon =
as it was turned off.  Much fiddling and head scratching before I =
replaced the fuel pump with a 2-3psi Facet and problem was solved.=20
>=20
> Sent from my VIC-64
>=20
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Creig Houghtaling <creig555@live.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Mechanical pump.
>=20
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> From: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 6:52 AM
> To: creig555@live.com; triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question
> =20
> Is he running an electric fuel pump?  If so is it a 2 - 3 PSI unit or =
the higher, more common 5 - 7 PSI pump?  the higher pressure may be =
overcoming the float valves.
>=20
>=20
> Dave Massey
>=20
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>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Creig Houghtaling <creig555@live.com>
> To: Triumph List <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, Mar 8, 2016 5:24 pm
> Subject: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question
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> My friend's TR6 was running poorly. After the car had been running, =
and was turned off, I noticed drips of gasoline dropping from the port =
below the forward carb just in front of the intake manifold. I concluded =
the Gross jet was not stopping the flow of gas to the carb and gas was =
getting pushed into the engine. So I replaced both float valves with =
standard valves and also changed both floats. After putting everything =
back together, I ran the car for a few minutes and turned it off. It was =
dripping gas out the same port. Looked in the throat from the air filter =
side and saw a small puddle of gas in the lower area right in front of =
the venturi. As far as I know, that means the gas isn't shutting off. =
Perhaps I didn't adjust the float correctly. Or there is something at =
the fuel inlet orifice allowing gas to bypass the valve. Is there =
anything I am missing here? Could the enrichment valve  (choke) be the =
culprit? I haven't touched that yet. I adjusted the new float to fully =
close the valve when the mold line of the float was parallel with the =
horizontal edge of the carb where the fuel reservoir attaches.
>=20
> Am I missing anything else here?=20
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> Thanks=20
> Creig Houghtaling
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">I =
solved the too high fuel pressure on ZS carbs with a fuel pressure =
regulator. Even a cheap one will work but don=92t depend on the markings =
on the regulator. You need to hook up a vacuum gage to set it to about 1 =
1/2 to 2 psi. At least that=92s what my TR6 ZS carbs liked =
best.<br><div>
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border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">69 Spitfire MK III =
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normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; border-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda =
Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)</div></div><div =
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<br><div><div>On Mar 12, 2016, at 8:14 AM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:Wbeech@flash.net";>Wbeech@flash.net</a> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:wbeech@flash.net";>wbeech@flash.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Ditto Dave. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div>Just had that same problem with a recent non-TR =
acquisition. &nbsp; PO had installed the higher pressure pump and the =
car instantly flooded as soon as it was turned off. &nbsp;Much fiddling =
and head scratching before I replaced the fuel pump with a 2-3psi Facet =
and problem was solved.&nbsp;<br><br>Sent from my =
VIC-64</div><div><br>On Mar 12, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Creig Houghtaling =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:creig555@live.com";>creig555@live.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br><br></div><div>

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<div id=3D"divtagdefaultwrapper" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: Calibri, Arial, =
Helvetica, sans-serif;"><p>Mechanical pump.<br>
</p>
<br>
<br>
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<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> Dave &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey@cs.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 9, 2016 6:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:creig555@live.com";>creig555@live.com</a>; =
<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>=

<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=3D"4"><font =
size=3D"4">Is he running an electric fuel pump?&nbsp; If so is it a 2 - =
3 PSI unit or the higher, more common 5 - 7 PSI pump?&nbsp; the higher =
pressure may be overcoming the float valves.</font>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"clear: both;"><font size=3D"4">Dave Massey</font><br>
<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: =
10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Creig Houghtaling &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:creig555@live.com";>creig555@live.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: Triumph List &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br=
>
Sent: Tue, Mar 8, 2016 5:24 pm<br>
Subject: [TR] TR6 Stromberg question<br>
<br>
<div id=3D"AOLMsgPart_1.2_c425e000-65cf-4115-8c1a-67dac2ee440e">
<div class=3D"aolReplacedBody">My friend's TR6 was running poorly. After =
the car had been running, and was turned off, I noticed drips of =
gasoline dropping from the port below the forward carb just in front of =
the intake manifold. I concluded the Gross jet was
 not stopping the flow of gas to the carb and gas was getting pushed =
into the engine. So I replaced both float valves with standard valves =
and also changed both floats. After putting everything back together, I =
ran the car for a few minutes and turned it off.
 It was dripping gas out the same port. Looked in the throat from the =
air filter side and saw a small puddle of gas in the lower area right in =
front of the venturi. As far as I know, that means the gas isn't =
shutting off. Perhaps I didn't adjust the float correctly.
 Or there is something at the fuel inlet orifice allowing gas to bypass =
the valve. Is there anything I am missing here? Could the enrichment =
valve&nbsp; (choke) be the culprit? I haven't touched that yet. I =
adjusted the new float to fully close the valve when the
 mold line of the float was parallel with the horizontal edge of the =
carb where the fuel reservoir attaches.<br>
<br>
Am I missing anything else here? <br>
<br>
Thanks <br>
Creig Houghtaling<br>
</div>
</div>
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