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Re: tr3 breather pipe

To: triumphs@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: tr3 breather pipe
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:16:03 EST
Hi Larry, 

Your crankcase needs to breath to equalize pressure and emit fumes that can 
build up in the engine. Modern cars have closed circuits with PCV valves and 
other arrangements. Older cars simply vented the crankcase right into the open 
air. You could run a hose as you suggested, but then will simply be spraying an 
oil mist somewhere else. 

But, all is not lost. One way to prevent that oil residue is to install a 
"catch tank", as required in most forms of racing, to help reduce oil spills 
and 
residue on the track. It's a metal tank of minimum 1 quart size that has a 
small fitler/breather on top. Various shapes and sizes are made. You'll find 
them 
at race-oriented auto parts stores or online at similar websites. Pegasus 
Racing sells some types. A catch tank enables the breather circuit to operate 
normally, but won't allow oil to spread all over. 

The tricky part is to rig up some form outlet on the block, at the location 
of the original breather tube, so that can link to a hose leading the catch 
tank. I think the TR4A has "closed circuit" crankcase ventilation and has a 
plug 
in the hole that served the open circuit on the earlier cars. Get one of those 
plugs, drill a hole in the center and put a short piece of approx. 3/8" 
inside diameter pipe in the hole. If you can find a threaded piece at the 
hardware 
store, you can simply use a couple nuts to hold the pipe in place. 
Alternatively, it could be welded or brazed.  Then run a hose from the pipe to 
the catch 
tank. Catch tanks normally require draining every so often. 

If you want to keep your car as original as possible, you might be able to 
take a larger rubber hose off the existing breather pipe and get some sort of 
reducer to step down to the smaller size fitting you'll find on most catch 
tanks. The tank itself could probably be set up so it's removable, if you ever 
want 
to display the car in original condition. 

But, you may first want to consider one thing! That oily substance slowly 
spreading over the bottom of your car and kept fresh by the minute but regular 
flow out the breather pipe is known to some folks as "British Undercoating". 
And, it works! I've got a gearbox from a TR4 that had the same breather 
arrangement all it's life and kept everything underneath coated in a nice 
oil/dust/road 
grime mixture that protected all the parts very well!  After I cleaned the 
grime off, the gearbox looks like it just came out the factory door. Even the 
original black bolts and unfinished steel at the drive shaft joint look like 
new 
and show no signs of rust or corrosion. Just a thought ;-)

Alan Myers
San Jose, Calif.

AMfoto1@aol.com
http://hometown.aol.com/amfoto1/amfoto1.htm 

i noticed the breather pipe on my tr3 blows out the residual 
from the motor(which is a normal function), but is there some way i can 
prevent 
a buildup of the oily substance around the lower firewall and chassis?. if i 
run a hose from the breather pipe to the rear am i changing or harming the 
motor?  happy thinksgiving,  larry schwartz




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