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> From: DON BOYD, JOAN IKOMA <dbji@whidbey.net>
> To: Ed Woods <fogbros@nb.net>
> Subject: Re: TR6 clutch not smooth and DOT 3
> Date: Friday, July 17, 1998 12:23 AM
>
> Ed Woods;
>
> a partial explaination is that the silicone fluid was in the car for
about
> 12 years,and was put in by a former owner/brit restorationist when the
> system was renewed. i presume it was an early dot 5 fluid, but don't
know.
> i've read later dot 5 won't do this. of course that's what they said
about
> the stuff in 1982 also. i'm sure they are correct. just not in my car.
i've
> got no problem with running it in machinery that was designed for it. if
> you have had great luck with it, ok by me . the car came from a wet
climate
> (willamette valley or.) but had been in storage for 10 of those 12 years.
> as a shop owner myself (euro but not brit), i got curious and started
> asking people who were using it about how it was working for them . short
> term people were happy unless their pedal was mushy,longer term people
> weren't common, but some had had the same experience i had. i also saw a
> couple of problems in motorcycles. the conclusion i came to was that it
was
> too easy to pull proper maintinence and not risk it. bottom line...after
> maybe 2400 fluid changes in my shop over 12 years,i never peeled paint on
> one car (had good equipment) , and my customers had no corrosion or fluid
> related failures on cars that had regular fluid changes(one to two years
> depending...) and that did not have corrosion problems allready. that is
> not to say that i didn't work on dozens of corrosion related failures but
> these were new clients . i generally had customers retain me for as long
> as they owned thier car (and sometimes for several owners) so often it
was
> enough time to get good feedback. just one poor guy or gal that believes
> you when you say this dot 5 stuff is not going to hurt thier car and then
> has a problem that causes an injury accident is going to ruin you. again,
> i'm all for using dot 5 in systems that call for it , but that is not
older
> systems. if it works for you and your friends --well ok. i get the
feeling
> from your email that your a pro. if so ,and you ever get the chance to
sit
> in a witness box and try to convince a jury that you ment no harm, the
> opposing counsel is gonna rip you a new orfice. also, my conclusions
match
> with major publication articles i,ve read on the subject(cycle world
> ,sport rider, grass roots motorsports,...honestly, i never thought i'd
need
> to bibliography my readings on the subject so i've not kept tract). i do
> not want to start a flame war. if you have info from experts in the field
> that have been published that i should know about please let me know.
> wouldn't be the first time i needed to change my mind on something about
> cars :-)
>
> don boyd
>
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> > From: Ed Woods <fogbros@nb.net>
> > To: DON BOYD, JOAN IKOMA <dbji@whidbey.net>
> > Cc: Triumph Mailinglist <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: TR6 clutch not smooth and DOT 3
> > Date: Thursday, July 16, 1998 5:27 AM
> >
> > Don,
> >
> > With all due respect, how do you explain all the cars that have been
> using
> > DOT 5 silicone for years without a problem?? The only results I've seen
> are
> > no rusty, corroded parts and no damaged paint. How long? Ten years at
the
> > minimum. And I've never had to repair or replace so much as one seal or
> > cylinder.
> >
> > Ed Woods
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