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Re: TR4A body work

To: "Justin Wagner" <jmwagner@greenheart.com>, <Ct54531@aol.com>
Subject: Re: TR4A body work
From: "Dave Herr" <dherr@innernet.net>
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 22:58:31 -0400
Cc: <Triumphs@Autox.Team.Net>
TR4A people,
I have almost completed my web site. It includes info on removal of the
body w/pictures.
Email me if you have any questions. The body does lift off with a few
strong friends.

Dave Herr   Triumph Web Site at: http://www.innernet.net/dherr/index.htm
73 Stag
65 TR4A

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> From: Justin Wagner <jmwagner@greenheart.com>
> To: Ct54531@aol.com
> Cc: Triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: TR4A body work
> Date: Monday, July 07, 1997 11:03 PM
> 
> Ct54531@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > A little while ago, I finally got back to a TR4A live axle restoration.
I
> > wrote the list asking about the feasibility of cutting the back section
of
> > the body out (inner and outer) and welding the same section from a
donor car
> > onto it. The response was generally that it was feasible but be
> > veeeerrrrrrrrrry careful about keeping the body form stable.
> > Well, I decided that perhaps it wasn't necessary to do all that cutting
and
> > changed my intention to just swapping the outer body parts of the
recipient
> > car with the donor car. I started to remove the recipient car's fenders
and,
> > while I knew they were full of bondo, I had no idea how much. The
fenders, in
> > the rear at least, weren't even bolted to the inner fender. There was
so much
> > adhesive that they were actually "molded onto the inner body, looking
like
> > they were held on by the adhesive itself. There was no way to get the
fenders
> > off as a whole part. We actually had to chisel down the line where the
seam
> > should have been and break them off from the inner fender.
> > That was the good news. What that endeavor revealed was that the inner
body
> > is so rusted that it's a miracle anything stayed attached. But I'm glad
I
> > know now.
> > However, I am fortunate in that the inner body on the donor car looks
to be
> > in almost pristine condition. So now, I'm back to the idea of a down to
the
> > frame restoration which I never should have abandoned.
> > What I'd like to figure out before I start is the best way to remove
the
> > inner body parts from the frame. And how big a job will this be. Don't
be
> > gentle. I'm doing it no matter what. I just want to know what to
expect.
> > I believe someone said there were something like 14 bolts to the frame.
Is
> > that it? I mean after I've removed the fourteen or so bolts, am I down
to the
> > frame?
> > Also, how few sections can the inner body come off in? The front
portion of
> > the car    (from valance to bulkhead) appears to be one piece - or a
series
> > of welded pieces. How much comes off in one piece?
> > Is it welded to the bulkhead or is the bulkhead part of the front
section
> > and, if so, what is it welded (or bolted) to?
> > Similar question for the rear. How much can come off in one section and
how
> > far forward would that section go?
> > The middle poses the greatest questions to me. Is it - like the front
and
> > rear (if they are) - possible to take the middle part of the body off
in one
> > section or does it even come off? Is it just a matter of removing the
bolts
> > at the door posts?
> > I'm sure these questions are simple to the initiated but that
description
> > does not include me when it comes to body parts. TIA.
> > 
> > CT54531
> > 1965 TR4A Live Axle
> 
> 
> I've taken two TR 4/4A bodies off the frame... it is just a matter of
> those bolts...  and it comes off as one piece....  obviously... there's
> things that need to be disconnected... like fuel lines, brake lines...
> etc...  
> 
> It sounds like you're moving forward with a huge project... but haven't
> bought a factory manual yet... SHAME!!!  The factory manual (and
> reprints) explains all this stuff... shows you EXACTLY how to lift the
> body off... (it you want to do it with rope, etc...)  or you can just
> get some manpower... and lift it off...   
>  
> Anyways.... it's really NOT difficult to separate the two at all...  I
> would say the hard part is just getting it back on... with all the
> correct spacers and seals... and all lined up... etc... 
> 
> get the manual...  really.... you probably haven't seen one yet... they
> are COMPREHENSIVE.... not like some other car's manuals I've seen...
> 
> 
> Justin
> jmwagner@greenheart.com
> http://www.greenheart.com/jmwagner
> TR 4A/TR 4A IRS
> Los Angeles

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