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Let's be human (non-LBC)

To: John Gillis <jgillis@tcd.ie>
Subject: Let's be human (non-LBC)
From: Adam Turner <turner@public.se>
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 13:58:03 +0200
Cc: triumphs@Autox.Team.Net
Organization: Turner & Turner
References: <v01530503af6673097170@[134.226.9.58]>
John Gillis wrote:
> 
> >Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 09:08:41 +0100
> >To:Mark J Bradakis <mjb@autox.team.net>
> >From:jgillis@mail.tcd.ie (John Gillis)
> >Subject:Re: FW: Let's talk about Triumphs!
> >
> >>[BOUNCE triumphs@Autox.Team.Net:    Non-member submission from
> >>[LESNYD@monsanto.com]]
> >>
> >>     Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:46:20 -0600
> >>     From: LESNYD@monsanto.com
> >>     Subject: Let's talk about Triumphs!
> >>
> >>
> >>This morning I received 4 digests from the Triumphs list in the mail.
> >>In those digests were a total of 204 messages, and the subject matter
> >>broke down like this:
> >>
> >>     Personal comments
> >>       (age, habits, jokes, etc.):                  8 ( 4%)
> >>     TRF (including Coventry Inn and
> >>       whining about not getting the newsletter):  69 (34%)
> >>     Actual discussion about Triumphs:             80 (39%)
> >>     Beer or Brits:                                38 (19%)
> >>     Wanted/For Sale:                               7 ( 3%)
> >>     Random non-LBC discussion:                     2 ( 1%)
> >>
> >>I've been on this list since 1991, and I've never seen the
> >>signal-to-noise ratio so low. This is exactly what caused me to leave
> >>the British-Cars list a while back.
> >>
> >>Please reread Mark's intro to the list (you get it when you subscribe,
> >>I don't know where else it lives), and understand that each little
> >>piece of useless fluff you send to this list goes out to lots and lots
> >>of people, most of whom have no interest in your little aside to a
> >>previous piece of useless fluff.
> >>
> >>I've learned a lot from this list, but I have to admit it's been a while.
> >>
> >>Please folks, 80 Triumph-related posts out of 204 on a Triumphs mailing list
> >>is awful! Please think before you mail off your funnylittle comment!
> >>
> >>Thanks for listening,
> >>
> >>Larry in St. Louis
> >
> >
> >HERE HERE, I'm with you on this one> I have a limited amount of time for
> >reading off the list. and like as much data (Triumph) as possible in that
> >time. I really don't care how fast you made your Triumph go, and how you
> >got away without a fine, or even how you would like to be fined for
> >speeding, for God's sake !!!!
> >John Gillis.
> >

I would have thought TRF's a fair topic for a Triumphs list as an
important source of spare parts, and in the case of the Coventry Inn,
oesophegal lubricants (that was humour, by the way). Likewise
wanteds/for sales - good way of finding a car that might actually have
been cared for by someone who's interested in the subject.

So 

Actual discussion + TRF + Wanted/ for sale = 76% isn't a bad showing, in
purely statistical terms. 

I now resist the opportunity to indulge my fairly highly developed wit
as a riposte to lumping together Brits and beers to point out that

100-76=24% miscellaneous crap is worth putting up with when novices like
me can get answers to pretty knotty mechanical/electrical problems in
about 24 hours, not least from your good self. Particularly when that
"crap" puts a smile on my face, makes new contacts and even friends.

I genuinely admire your knowledge of and interest in Triumph cars, and
indeed the venerable seat of learning (Trinity) which, de facto, you
represent. However, I do feel it might be opportune to suggest a little
tolerance of personality types and means of expression which differ from
ones own. It might even prove enriching. 

If not, we all know where the exit is.


Adam Turner
'74 TR6

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