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Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners

To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 21:20:52 -0400
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Ron,

Thanks!

 Getting this right will take a communal effort.

-Allan


> On May 16, 2022, at 8:02 PM, Allan Ballard <aballard@ix.netcom.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> I stopped by my shop today to photograph the trunk hinge fasteners on =
a Mk II Tiger.
>=20
> SFAIK the MK II is highly original although it was rough when it went =
into long term storage.
>=20
> Subsequently it=E2=80=99s only been driven now and then.
>=20
> As discussed earlier, the correct hinge features two unpainted =
fasteners - a stud and bolt at one end and a flat headed
> Screw at the other end.
>=20
> This Mk II=E2=80=99s left hinge does use an unpainted stud and nut.
>=20
> However an unpainted bolt takes the place where a flat headed screw
> Belongs.=E2=80=99
>=20
> Regarding the other hinge, unpainted bolts are present at each end of =
the hinge so that=E2=80=99s not correct.
>=20
>=20
> <right hinge MK II.jpeg><left hinge MK II.jpeg>
>> On May 16, 2022, at 7:43 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers =
>>=20
>> The CAT forum resources that David sent does have these 2 issues.
>> =20
>> Not much detail listed but the Mk I looks like it has the C4DF-S carb =
which would be the L2KA or later engine group
>> =20
>> License plate DLR -  I=E2=80=99m guessing means Dealer plates.
>> =20
>> Period correct photos like these are a great resource for unmolested =
original details.
>> It=E2=80=99s too bad they did not add details like the Vin # in these =
R&T issues.
>> =20
>> Ron Fraser
>> =20
>> From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com =
>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 4:25 PM
>> Cc: jimdamelio <jimdamelio@verizon.net =
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
>> =20
>> I have both of the magazines. =20
>> =20
>> The Mk1 article shows what might be a manufacturer's license plate =
with the numbers 2930.  I can't make out the state but it looks like on =
the left side of the plate there is a "1" stacked vertically over a "U" =
and  the letters "D", "L" and "R" stacked vertically in the center of =
the plate.  The photo under the hood doesn't show the ID plate.
>> =20
>> The Mk2 article shows a license plate that might be from California =
and on the left side of the plate there is an "18" over an "R" and on =
the right side is a "4". In the middle of the plate it looks like there =
are the letters "D", "L" and "R" stacked vertically.  Once again, there =
is no photo showing the ID plate. =20
>> =20
>> I love looking at the ads in these old magazines.  In the September =
1967 issue you could pick up a 1965 Ferrari 275 GTB for $8750.
>> =20
>> Have Fun,
>> Joe Brown
>> =20
>> =20
>> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 2:50 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers =
>>> Here are the cover pictures of the September 1967 issue and the Nov =
1964 issue.
>>> =20
>>> Anyone have these R&T issues in their collection?
>>> =20
>>> Putting a Vin #, Engine # or even a license plate # with these cars =
would be great.
>>> =20
>>> Ron Fraser
>>> =20
>>> From: jimdamelio <jimdamelio@verizon.net =
>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 8:30 AM
>>> Subject: RE: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
>>> =20
>>> It was the September 67 issue when they tested the MKII and November =
64 for the MKI.  They didn't mention the VIN.
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> Sent from my Galaxy
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com =
>>> Date: 5/16/22 7:59 AM (GMT-05:00)=20
>>> To: 'jimdamelio' <jimdamelio@verizon.net =
>>> Subject: RE: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners=20
>>> =20
>>> Jim
>>>                 Excellent, period photos are valuable for original =
details.
>>> Any chance you know the month and year of that R&T issue or maybe =
the Vin # of that Mk II?
>>> =20
>>> Ron Fraser
>>> =20
>>> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Tigers
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2022 8:39 PM
>>> To: Allan Ballard <aballard@ix.netcom.com =
>>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
>>> =20
>>> I have an 8 X 10 B&W photo of a MKII engine compartment and trunk =
taken by Road & Track when they tested the car.  You used to be able to =
buy copies of the pictures from them for a few bucks.  I requested =
copies of the MKI, but they couldn't find them.
>>> =20
>>> Jim D
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> Sent from my Galaxy
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net =
>>> Date: 5/15/22 7:36 PM (GMT-05:00)=20
>>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners=20
>>> =20
>>> Jim=E2=80=99s work to document Tigers and Alpines is extraordinary.
>>> =20
>>> A library of supplemental photographs from original cars could only =
help however, deepening the substances of  his primary resource.
>>> =20
>>> A while ago at a show I met a couple with an unmolested, original Mk =
II Tiger.
>>> =20
>>> They offered its use for just such purposes as we=E2=80=99ve =
discussed here.
>>> =20
>>> Unfortunately I lost their card.
>>> =20
>>> Other opportunities exist.
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>>> On May 15, 2022, at 12:43 PM, James Lindner via Tigers =
>>>>=20
>>>> =EF=BB=BFAlong the lines of a photo library, I would direct you to =
the Tiger and Alpine Judging guides on the TEAE website. These documents =
took me years to put together, and although the photos are often of =
restored cars, the information contained within came from some of the =
most knowledgeable Tiger and Alpine people. I cannot swear it is =
absolutely 100% accurate, but it is pretty close.
>>>> =20
>>>> The Tiger guide was my first effort and at 30+ pages it does not go =
too deep.=20
>>>> =20
>>>> =
https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/StockTigerQuickRefere=
nceV2-19.pdf =
<https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/StockTigerQuickRefer=
enceV2-19.pdf>
>>>> =20
>>>> The Alpine guide however, is more comprehensive and runs to 130 =
pages.
>>>> =20
>>>> =
https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Concours-Judging-Guid=
e-Sunbeam-Alpines.pdf =
<https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Concours-Judging-Gui=
de-Sunbeam-Alpines.pdf>
>>>>=20
>>>> These are living documents which I update occasionally. Soon I will =
be adding the info about hinge fasteners, along with a couple other =
updates/corrections. OBTW=E2=80=A6I am going with unpainted hinge =
fasteners.
>>>> =20
>>>> Jim Lindner
>>>> =20
>>>> =20
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>>> On May 15, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com =
>>>>>=20
>>>>> =EF=BB=BFMayf sent me this note and I wanted to make sure everyone =
on the List
>>>>> received it.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> What I think we need is a photo record from any original owner =
with an
>>>>> original Tiger to send photos to the List.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Photos of each Tiger Series would be the goal - B947, B948, B382 =
and B3821.
>>>>> I also think photos of each Alpine Series would be helpful.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Ron Fraser
>>>>>=20
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Larry Mayfield <drmayf@mayfco.com =
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 10:49 AM
>>>>> To: 'Ron Fraser' <rfraser@bluefrog.com =
>>>>> Subject: RE: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Ron, mine are OEM. Round slot screws where they run on the weather =
seal and
>>>>> stud and nut other side through the deck and into the hinge.  None =
are
>>>>> painted.  And my car has been painted 3 times since I acquired it. =
Paint
>>>>> shops knew not to paint them.=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> mayf
>>>>>=20
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 4:56 AM
>>>>> To: 'Allan Ballard' <aballard@ix.netcom.com =
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Allan
>>>>>    The photo evidence indicates that the Parts List is not =
correct.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The fasteners should be natural color, not painted.
>>>>> The trunk lid would be painted 1st, paint cured then installed.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The March 1963 shows this screw in the Series I & II section for =
the trunk
>>>>> hinge
>>>>> 2203571    Screw, 1/4" UNF. X 1/2" Special
>>>>> This screw is also listed for the Series III & IV trunk hinge but =
the word
>>>>> Special is not there.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> This screw # does not show up in the ZY section of the Parts List.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Your pictures look like a large headed Round Screw much like a =
license plate
>>>>> screw.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I know my trunk hinge fasteners are not original so no help there.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Ron Fraser
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
>>>>> Tigers
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 1:39 AM
>>>>> To: Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com =
>>>>> Cc: Tiger List List <tigers@autox.team.net =
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
>>>>>=20
>>>>> These are going on my Forest
>>>>> Green Mk1a Tiger:
>>>>>=20
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class=3D"">Ron,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thanks!</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;Getting this right will take a communal =
effort.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">-Allan</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On May =
16, 2022, at 8:02 PM, Allan Ballard &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com"; =
class=3D"">aballard@ix.netcom.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I stopped by my shop =
today to photograph the trunk hinge fasteners on a Mk II Tiger.<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">SFAIK the MK II is =
highly original although it was rough when it went into long term =
storage.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Subsequently it=E2=80=99s only been driven now and =
then.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">As =
discussed earlier, the correct hinge features two unpainted fasteners - =
a stud and bolt at one end and a flat headed</div><div class=3D"">Screw =
at the other end.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">This Mk II=E2=80=99s left hinge does use an unpainted stud =
and nut.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">However=
 an unpainted bolt takes the place where a flat headed screw</div><div =
class=3D"">Belongs.=E2=80=99</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Regarding the other hinge, unpainted =
bolts are present at each end of the hinge so that=E2=80=99s not =
correct.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><span =
id=3D"cid:7DCCAB84-A636-47D4-B7CF-80FA30DA4F81">&lt;right hinge MK =
II.jpeg&gt;</span><span =
id=3D"cid:3083CAE3-6264-4BAB-BF77-9A8F41E1100E">&lt;left hinge MK =
II.jpeg&gt;</span><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On May =
16, 2022, at 7:43 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: =
WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">The CAT forum resources =
that David sent does have these 2 issues.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Not much detail listed but the Mk I =
looks like it has the C4DF-S carb which would be the L2KA or later =
engine group<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">License plate DLR - &nbsp;I=E2=80=99m guessing means Dealer =
plates.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Period correct photos like these are a great resource for =
unmolested original details.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">It=E2=80=99s too bad they did not add =
details like the Vin # in these R&amp;T issues.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Ron =
Fraser<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Joe Brown &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, May 16, 2022 4:25 =
PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Ron Fraser &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; =
class=3D"">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>jimdamelio &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jimdamelio@verizon.net"; =
class=3D"">jimdamelio@verizon.net</a>&gt;; Tigers Den &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk =
hinge fasteners<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">I have both of the =
magazines.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">The Mk1 article shows what might be a manufacturer's license =
plate with the numbers 2930.&nbsp; I can't make out the state but it =
looks like on the left side of the plate there is a "1" stacked =
vertically over a "U" and&nbsp;&nbsp;the letters "D", "L" and "R" =
stacked vertically in the center of the plate.&nbsp; The photo under the =
hood doesn't show the ID plate.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">The Mk2 article shows a license plate that might be from =
California and on the left side of the plate there is an "18" over an =
"R" and on the right side is a "4". In the middle of the plate it looks =
like there are the letters "D", "L" and "R" stacked vertically.&nbsp; =
Once again, there is no photo showing the ID plate.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">I love looking at the ads in these old =
magazines.&nbsp; In the September 1967 issue you could pick up a 1965 =
Ferrari 275 GTB for $8750.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Have Fun,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div=
 style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Joe Brown<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div=
 class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">On Mon, May 16, 2022 at =
2:50 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"=
 style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border-style: none =
none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, =
204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: =
0in;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Here are the cover pictures of the =
September 1967 issue and the Nov 1964 issue.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Anyone =
have these R&amp;T issues in their collection?<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Putting a =
Vin #, Engine # or even a license plate # with these cars would be =
great.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Ron Fraser<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; =
border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b><span=
 class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>jimdamelio &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jimdamelio@verizon.net"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">jimdamelio@verizon.net</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, May 16, 2022 8:30 =
AM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Ron Fraser &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a><br=
 class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>RE: [Tigers] Correct trunk =
hinge fasteners<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">It was the September 67 =
issue when they tested the MKII and November 64 for the MKI.&nbsp; They =
didn't mention the VIN.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_-2687842874068995211composer_signature" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
9pt; color: rgb(87, 87, 87);" class=3D"">Sent from my Galaxy</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D"">-------- Original message =
--------</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D"">From: Ron =
Fraser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D"">Date: 5/16/22 7:59 AM =
(GMT-05:00)<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D"">To: 'jimdamelio' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jimdamelio@verizon.net"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">jimdamelio@verizon.net</a>&gt;, 'Allan Ballard' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">aballard@ix.netcom.com</a>&gt;, 'James Lindner' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jliny5@cox.net"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">jliny5@cox.net</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D"">Cc:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a></span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D"">Subject: RE: [Tigers] Correct =
trunk hinge fasteners<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Jim<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Excellent, period photos are valuable for =
original details.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Any chance you know the month and year of that R&amp;T issue =
or maybe the Vin # of that Mk II?<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Ron Fraser<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"border-style: solid =
none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); =
padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>jimdamelio via =
Tigers<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Sunday, May 15, 2022 8:39 =
PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Allan Ballard &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">aballard@ix.netcom.com</a>&gt;; James Lindner &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jliny5@cox.net"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">jliny5@cox.net</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">Tigers@autox.team.net</a><br=
 class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk =
hinge fasteners<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">I have an 8 X 10 B&amp;W =
photo of a MKII engine compartment and trunk taken by Road &amp; Track =
when they tested the car.&nbsp; You used to be able to buy copies of the =
pictures from them for a few bucks.&nbsp; I requested copies of the MKI, =
but they couldn't find them.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Jim D<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_-2687842874068995211composer_signature" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
9pt; color: rgb(87, 87, 87);" class=3D"">Sent from my Galaxy</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D"">-------- Original message =
--------</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D"">From: Allan =
Ballard via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D"">Date: 5/15/22 7:36 PM =
(GMT-05:00)<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D"">To: James Lindner &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jliny5@cox.net"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">jliny5@cox.net</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D"">Cc:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">Tigers@autox.team.net</a></span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct =
trunk hinge fasteners<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Jim=E2=80=99=
s work to document Tigers and Alpines is extraordinary.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">A library of supplemental photographs =
from original cars could only help however, deepening the substances of =
&nbsp;his primary resource.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">A while ago at a show I met a couple with an unmolested, =
original Mk II Tiger.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">They offered its use for just such purposes as we=E2=80=99ve =
discussed here.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Unfortunately I lost their card.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Other opportunities exist.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Sent from my iPhone<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On May 15, 2022, at 12:43 PM, James =
Lindner via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BFAlong the lines of a photo =
library, I would direct you to the Tiger and Alpine Judging guides on =
the TEAE website. These documents took me years to put together, and =
although the photos are often of restored cars, the information =
contained within came from some of the most knowledgeable Tiger and =
Alpine people. I cannot swear it is absolutely 100% accurate, but it is =
pretty close.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">The Tiger guide was my first effort and at 30+ pages it does =
not go too deep.&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/StockTigerQui=
ckReferenceV2-19.pdf" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/StockTiger=
QuickReferenceV2-19.pdf</a><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">The Alpine guide however, is more comprehensive and runs to =
130 pages.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Concours-Judg=
ing-Guide-Sunbeam-Alpines.pdf" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Concours-J=
udging-Guide-Sunbeam-Alpines.pdf</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">These =
are living documents which I update occasionally. Soon I will be adding =
the info about hinge fasteners, along with a couple other =
updates/corrections. OBTW=E2=80=A6I am going with unpainted hinge =
fasteners.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Jim Lindner<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Sent from my iPad<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On May 15, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Ron =
Fraser &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">=EF=BB=BFMayf sent me this note and I =
wanted to make sure everyone on the List<br class=3D"">received it.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">What I think we need is a photo record from =
any original owner with an<br class=3D"">original Tiger to send photos =
to the List.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Photos of each Tiger Series =
would be the goal - B947, B948, B382 and B3821.<br class=3D"">I also =
think photos of each Alpine Series would be helpful.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Ron Fraser<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">-----Original =
Message-----<br class=3D"">From: Larry Mayfield &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:drmayf@mayfco.com"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">drmayf@mayfco.com</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D"">Sent: =
Saturday, May 14, 2022 10:49 AM<br class=3D"">To: 'Ron Fraser' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: RE: =
[Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Ron, =
mine are OEM. Round slot screws where they run on the weather seal =
and<br class=3D"">stud and nut other side through the deck and into the =
hinge.&nbsp; None are<br class=3D"">painted.&nbsp; And my car has been =
painted 3 times since I acquired it. Paint<br class=3D"">shops knew not =
to paint them.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">mayf<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">-----Original =
Message-----<br class=3D"">From: Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Ron =
Fraser<br class=3D"">Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 4:56 AM<br =
class=3D"">To: 'Allan Ballard' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">aballard@ix.netcom.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a><br=
 class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Allan<br class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;The photo =
evidence indicates that the Parts List is not correct.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">The fasteners should be natural color, not painted.<br =
class=3D"">The trunk lid would be painted 1st, paint cured then =
installed.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">The March 1963 shows this screw =
in the Series I &amp; II section for the trunk<br class=3D"">hinge<br =
class=3D"">2203571 &nbsp; &nbsp;Screw, 1/4" UNF. X 1/2" Special<br =
class=3D"">This screw is also listed for the Series III &amp; IV trunk =
hinge but the word<br class=3D"">Special is not there.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">This screw # does not show up in the ZY section of the Parts =
List.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Your pictures look like a large =
headed Round Screw much like a license plate<br class=3D"">screw.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">I know my trunk hinge fasteners are not =
original so no help there.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Ron Fraser<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br =
class=3D"">From: Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Allan =
Ballard via<br class=3D"">Tigers<br class=3D"">Sent: Saturday, May 14, =
2022 1:39 AM<br class=3D"">To: Jay Laifman &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">jay.laifman@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: Tiger List =
List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: =
[Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">These =
are going on my Forest<br class=3D"">Green Mk1a Tiger:<br class=3D""><br =
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