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The CAT forum resources that David sent does have these 2 issues.
=20
Not much detail listed but the Mk I looks like it has the C4DF-S carb =
which would be the L2KA or later engine group
=20
License plate DLR - I=E2=80=99m guessing means Dealer plates.
=20
Period correct photos like these are a great resource for unmolested =
original details.
It=E2=80=99s too bad they did not add details like the Vin # in these =
R&T issues.
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>=20
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 4:25 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Cc: jimdamelio <jimdamelio@verizon.net>; Tigers Den =
<tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
=20
I have both of the magazines. =20
=20
The Mk1 article shows what might be a manufacturer's license plate with =
the numbers 2930. I can't make out the state but it looks like on the =
left side of the plate there is a "1" stacked vertically over a "U" and =
the letters "D", "L" and "R" stacked vertically in the center of the =
plate. The photo under the hood doesn't show the ID plate.
=20
The Mk2 article shows a license plate that might be from California and =
on the left side of the plate there is an "18" over an "R" and on the =
right side is a "4". In the middle of the plate it looks like there are =
the letters "D", "L" and "R" stacked vertically. Once again, there is =
no photo showing the ID plate. =20
=20
I love looking at the ads in these old magazines. In the September 1967 =
issue you could pick up a 1965 Ferrari 275 GTB for $8750.
=20
Have Fun,
Joe Brown
=20
=20
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 2:50 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers =
Here are the cover pictures of the September 1967 issue and the Nov 1964 =
issue.
=20
Anyone have these R&T issues in their collection?
=20
Putting a Vin #, Engine # or even a license plate # with these cars =
would be great.
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
>=20
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 8:30 AM
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
=20
It was the September 67 issue when they tested the MKII and November 64 =
for the MKI. They didn't mention the VIN.
=20
=20
=20
Sent from my Galaxy
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-------- Original message --------
Date: 5/16/22 7:59 AM (GMT-05:00)=20
>, 'Allan Ballard' <aballard@ix.netcom.com =
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners=20
=20
Jim
Excellent, period photos are valuable for original =
details.
Any chance you know the month and year of that R&T issue or maybe the =
Vin # of that Mk II?
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Tigers
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2022 8:39 PM
To: Allan Ballard <aballard@ix.netcom.com =
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
=20
I have an 8 X 10 B&W photo of a MKII engine compartment and trunk taken =
by Road & Track when they tested the car. You used to be able to buy =
copies of the pictures from them for a few bucks. I requested copies of =
the MKI, but they couldn't find them.
=20
Jim D
=20
=20
=20
Sent from my Galaxy
=20
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-------- Original message --------
From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net =
Date: 5/15/22 7:36 PM (GMT-05:00)=20
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners=20
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Jim=E2=80=99s work to document Tigers and Alpines is extraordinary.
=20
A library of supplemental photographs from original cars could only help =
however, deepening the substances of his primary resource.
=20
A while ago at a show I met a couple with an unmolested, original Mk II =
Tiger.
=20
They offered its use for just such purposes as we=E2=80=99ve discussed =
here.
=20
Unfortunately I lost their card.
=20
Other opportunities exist.
=20
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=20
Sent from my iPhone
=20
On May 15, 2022, at 12:43 PM, James Lindner via Tigers =
=EF=BB=BFAlong the lines of a photo library, I would direct you to the =
Tiger and Alpine Judging guides on the TEAE website. These documents =
took me years to put together, and although the photos are often of =
restored cars, the information contained within came from some of the =
most knowledgeable Tiger and Alpine people. I cannot swear it is =
absolutely 100% accurate, but it is pretty close.
=20
The Tiger guide was my first effort and at 30+ pages it does not go too =
deep.=20
=20
https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/StockTigerQuickRefer=
enceV2-19.pdf
=20
The Alpine guide however, is more comprehensive and runs to 130 pages.
=20
https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Concours-Judging-Gui=
de-Sunbeam-Alpines.pdf
These are living documents which I update occasionally. Soon I will be =
adding the info about hinge fasteners, along with a couple other =
updates/corrections. OBTW=E2=80=A6I am going with unpainted hinge =
fasteners.
=20
Jim Lindner
=20
=20
Sent from my iPad
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On May 15, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com =
=EF=BB=BFMayf sent me this note and I wanted to make sure everyone on =
the List
received it.
What I think we need is a photo record from any original owner with an
original Tiger to send photos to the List.
Photos of each Tiger Series would be the goal - B947, B948, B382 and =
B3821.
I also think photos of each Alpine Series would be helpful.
Ron Fraser
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
Ron, mine are OEM. Round slot screws where they run on the weather seal =
and
stud and nut other side through the deck and into the hinge. None are
painted. And my car has been painted 3 times since I acquired it. Paint
shops knew not to paint them.=20
mayf
-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 4:56 AM
To: 'Allan Ballard' <aballard@ix.netcom.com =
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
Allan
The photo evidence indicates that the Parts List is not correct.
The fasteners should be natural color, not painted.
The trunk lid would be painted 1st, paint cured then installed.
The March 1963 shows this screw in the Series I & II section for the =
trunk
hinge
2203571 Screw, 1/4" UNF. X 1/2" Special
This screw is also listed for the Series III & IV trunk hinge but the =
word
Special is not there.
This screw # does not show up in the ZY section of the Parts List.
Your pictures look like a large headed Round Screw much like a license =
plate
screw.
I know my trunk hinge fasteners are not original so no help there.
Ron Fraser
-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Tigers
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 1:39 AM
Cc: Tiger List List <tigers@autox.team.net =
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners
These are going on my Forest
Green Mk1a Tiger:
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>The CAT =
forum resources that David sent does have these 2 =
issues.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Not much detail listed but the Mk I looks like it has =
the C4DF-S carb which would be the L2KA or later engine =
group<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>License plate DLR - =C2=A0I=E2=80=99m guessing means =
Dealer plates.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Period =
correct photos like these are a great resource for unmolested original =
details.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>It=E2=80=99s too bad they =
did not add details like the Vin # in these R&T =
issues.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> =
Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 16, =
2022 4:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser =
<rfraser@bluefrog.com><br><b>Cc:</b> jimdamelio =
<jimdamelio@verizon.net>; Tigers Den =
<tigers@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Correct =
trunk hinge fasteners<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have =
both of the magazines. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The Mk1 article shows what might be a manufacturer's =
license plate with the numbers 2930. I can't make out the state =
but it looks like on the left side of the plate there is a "1" =
stacked vertically over a "U" and the letters =
"D", "L" and "R" stacked vertically in the =
center of the plate. The photo under the hood doesn't show the ID =
plate.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The Mk2 article shows a license plate that might be =
from California and on the left side of the plate there is an =
"18" over an "R" and on the right side is a =
"4". In the middle of the plate it looks like there are the =
letters "D", "L" and "R" stacked =
vertically. Once again, there is no photo showing the ID =
plate. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
love looking at the ads in these old magazines. In the September =
1967 issue you could pick up a 1965 Ferrari 275 GTB for =
$8750.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Have Fun,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Joe Brown<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, May 16, 2022 at 2:50 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Here are =
the cover pictures of the September 1967 issue and the Nov 1964 =
issue.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Anyone have =
these R&T issues in their collection?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Putting a =
Vin #, Engine # or even a license plate # with these cars would be =
great.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b>=
jimdamelio <<a href=3D"mailto:jimdamelio@verizon.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">jimdamelio@verizon.net</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> =
Monday, May 16, 2022 8:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: =
[Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It was the =
September 67 issue when they tested the MKII and November 64 for the =
MKI. They didn't mention the VIN.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_-2687842874068995211composer_signature"><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;color:#575757'>Sent from my =
Galaxy</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>-------- Original message =
--------</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>From: Ron Fraser <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> =
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Date: 5/16/22 7:59 AM (GMT-05:00) =
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>To: 'jimdamelio' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:jimdamelio@verizon.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">jimdamelio@verizon.net</a>>, 'Allan Ballard' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">aballard@ix.netcom.com</a>>, 'James Lindner' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:jliny5@cox.net"; target=3D"_blank">jliny5@cox.net</a>> =
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a> =
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Subject: RE: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge =
fasteners </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jim<o:p></o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> =
&=
nbsp; Excellent, period photos are valuable for original =
details.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Any chance =
you know the month and year of that R&T issue or maybe the Vin # of =
that Mk II?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b>=
Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>jimdamelio via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 15, 2022 8:39 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Allan Ballard <<a =
href=3D"mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">aballard@ix.netcom.com</a>>; James Lindner <<a =
href=3D"mailto:jliny5@cox.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">jliny5@cox.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">Tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Tigers] Correct trunk hinge fasteners<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I have an 8 =
X 10 B&W photo of a MKII engine compartment and trunk taken by Road =
& Track when they tested the car. You used to be able to buy =
copies of the pictures from them for a few bucks. I requested =
copies of the MKI, but they couldn't find =
them.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jim =
D<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_-2687842874068995211composer_signature"><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;color:#575757'>Sent from my =
Galaxy</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>-------- Original message =
--------</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>From: Allan Ballard via Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> =
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Date: 5/15/22 7:36 PM (GMT-05:00) =
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>To: James Lindner <<a =
href=3D"mailto:jliny5@cox.net"; target=3D"_blank">jliny5@cox.net</a>> =
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">Tigers@autox.team.net</a> =
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Correct trunk hinge =
fasteners </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jim=E2=80=99=
s work to document Tigers and Alpines is =
extraordinary.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>A library =
of supplemental photographs from original cars could only help however, =
deepening the substances of his primary =
resource.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>A while ago =
at a show I met a couple with an unmolested, original Mk II =
Tiger.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>They =
offered its use for just such purposes as we=E2=80=99ve discussed =
here.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Unfortunatel=
y I lost their card.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Other =
opportunities exist.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sent from =
my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p><=
/p><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On May 15, 2022, =
at 12:43 PM, James Lindner via Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>=EF=BB=BFAlo=
ng the lines of a photo library, I would direct you to the Tiger and =
Alpine Judging guides on the TEAE website. These documents took me years =
to put together, and although the photos are often of restored cars, the =
information contained within came from some of the most knowledgeable =
Tiger and Alpine people. I cannot swear it is absolutely 100% accurate, =
but it is pretty close.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The Tiger =
guide was my first effort and at 30+ pages it does not go too =
deep. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a =
href=3D"https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/StockTigerQu=
ickReferenceV2-19.pdf" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/St=
ockTigerQuickReferenceV2-19.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The Alpine =
guide however, is more comprehensive and runs to 130 =
pages.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a =
href=3D"https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Concours-Jud=
ging-Guide-Sunbeam-Alpines.pdf" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.teae.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Co=
ncours-Judging-Guide-Sunbeam-Alpines.pdf</a><br><br>These are living =
documents which I update occasionally. Soon I will be adding the info =
about hinge fasteners, along with a couple other updates/corrections. =
OBTW=E2=80=A6I am going with unpainted hinge =
fasteners.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jim =
Lindner<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sent from =
my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p><=
/p><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On May 15, 2022, =
at 12:10 PM, Ron Fraser <<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>=EF=BB=BFMayf =
sent me this note and I wanted to make sure everyone on the =
List<br>received it.<br><br>What I think we need is a photo record from =
any original owner with an<br>original Tiger to send photos to the =
List.<br><br>Photos of each Tiger Series would be the goal - B947, B948, =
B382 and B3821.<br>I also think photos of each Alpine Series would be =
helpful.<br><br>Ron Fraser<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: =
Larry Mayfield <<a href=3D"mailto:drmayf@mayfco.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">drmayf@mayfco.com</a>> <br>Sent: Saturday, May 14, =
2022 10:49 AM<br>To: 'Ron Fraser' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>><br>Subject: RE: [Tigers] =
Correct trunk hinge fasteners<br><br>Ron, mine are OEM. Round slot =
screws where they run on the weather seal and<br>stud and nut other side =
through the deck and into the hinge. None are<br>painted. =
And my car has been painted 3 times since I acquired it. Paint<br>shops =
knew not to paint them. <br><br>mayf<br><br>-----Original =
Message-----<br>From: Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Ron =
Fraser<br>Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 4:56 AM<br>To: 'Allan Ballard' =
<<a href=3D"mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">aballard@ix.netcom.com</a>><br>Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a><br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] =
Correct trunk hinge fasteners<br><br>Allan<br> The photo =
evidence indicates that the Parts List is not correct.<br><br>The =
fasteners should be natural color, not painted.<br>The trunk lid would =
be painted 1st, paint cured then installed.<br><br>The March 1963 shows =
this screw in the Series I & II section for the =
trunk<br>hinge<br>2203571 Screw, 1/4" UNF. X 1/2" =
Special<br>This screw is also listed for the Series III & IV trunk =
hinge but the word<br>Special is not there.<br><br>This screw # does not =
show up in the ZY section of the Parts List.<br><br>Your pictures look =
like a large headed Round Screw much like a license =
plate<br>screw.<br><br>I know my trunk hinge fasteners are not original =
so no help there.<br><br>Ron Fraser<br><br><br>-----Original =
Message-----<br>From: Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of =
Allan Ballard via<br>Tigers<br>Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 1:39 =
AM<br>To: Jay Laifman <<a href=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">jay.laifman@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: Tiger List List =
<<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] =
Correct trunk hinge fasteners<br><br>These are going on my =
Forest<br>Green Mk1a =
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