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This is a question that is not part of my Original Tiger engine study.
I don=E2=80=99t know if the later style PCV is original to my engine. =
I only know this it is as purchased, I=E2=80=99m the 4th owner.
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Did Ford stock pile these adaptors for the Tiger engine build, well =
maybe.
If so it is a very good question as to when the change was made to the =
later style PCV valve and hose.
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The Parts List is no help because it lists changes by Vin #, Ford made =
changes by engine #.
The PCV Adaptor is listed for all Tiger engines =E2=80=93 no help there =
for when this part was changed.
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The only way to understand when this change happened is by Ford engine # =
or with period photos of the 60=E2=80=99s that at least indicate a Vin # =
to give us a reference point.
=20
Original Tiger Engine Study is online on the TE/AE web site.
It has been online since April 2021, there are only 13 entries. I had =
hoped for many more by now.
This is an easy questionnaire, no engine tear down required unless you =
want to.=20
Please participate.
Thanks
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
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From: Allan Ballard <aballard@ix.netcom.com>=20
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2021 1:26 PM
To: jimdamelio <jimdamelio@verizon.net>
Cc: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>; Tiger List List =
<tigers@Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger PCV Adapter
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My crossover Mk1a B382=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A691 came to me with the adaptor. =
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I am the 2nd owner and have no info whether the prior owner made =
changes.
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Any changes were made pre-1980 which is when the car entered long term =
storage.
=20
Allan Ballard
-Mk1a
-Series I Alpine (V6)
=20
On Oct 8, 2021, at 12:56 PM, jimdamelio via Tigers =
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Thanks for all the responses. I know what's original now.
=20
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Sent from my Galaxy
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Date: 10/8/21 11:56 AM (GMT-05:00)=20
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Subject: RE: [Tigers] Tiger PCV Adapter=20
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The short answer is NO. This picture is from Bob Mannel=E2=80=99s book =
pg. 4-41.
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The PCV valve threads into the Adaptor.
The pictures you sent =E2=80=93 that part could work but not original or =
correct for the Tiger engine.
I don=E2=80=99t believe the original Adaptor is available =E2=80=93 it =
is obsolete.
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Ford fazed the brass Adaptor part out as a cost reduction, replaced by =
the PCV hose with 2 right angles in 1965.
It is curious that even the MK II Part List shows this Adaptor. MK II =
does not use the brass Adaptor part.
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I do not know when this change took place on the Tiger engine but my =
F21KA engine has the 2 right angle PCV hose.
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Tigers
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2021 9:52 AM
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger PCV Adapter
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I've attached two pictures and was wondering if this is the same adapter =
Rootes used on the Tiger. The early parts book lists the Ford # as =
378754. The Mustang supplier's sell the pictured one for big block =
cars. Anyone still have their original.
=20
Jim D
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>This is a =
question that is not part of my Original Tiger engine =
study.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I don=E2=80=99t know if the =
later style PCV is original to my engine.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I only know this =
it is as purchased, I=E2=80=99m the 4<sup>th</sup> =
owner.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Did Ford stock pile these adaptors for the Tiger =
engine build, well maybe.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If so it is =
a very good question as to when the change was made to the later style =
PCV valve and hose.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The Parts =
List is no help because it lists changes by Vin #, Ford made changes by =
engine #.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The PCV Adaptor is listed =
for all Tiger engines =E2=80=93 no help there for when this part was =
changed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The only way to understand when this change happened =
is by Ford engine # or with period photos of the 60=E2=80=99s that at =
least indicate a Vin # to give us a reference point.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Original Tiger Engine Study is online on the =
TE/AE web site.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>It has been online since April 2021, there =
are only 13 entries.=C2=A0 I had hoped for many more by =
now.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>This is an easy questionnaire, no engine tear =
down required unless you want to. <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Please =
participate.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></b></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><o:p> </o:p></b></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Allan Ballard =
<aballard@ix.netcom.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 08, 2021 =
1:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> jimdamelio =
<jimdamelio@verizon.net><br><b>Cc:</b> Ron Fraser =
<rfraser@bluefrog.com>; Tiger List List =
<tigers@Autox.Team.Net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Tiger PCV =
Adapter<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>My crossover =
Mk1a B382=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A691 came to me with the =
adaptor. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
am the 2nd owner and have no info whether the prior owner made =
changes.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Any changes were made pre-1980 which is when the car =
entered long term storage.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Allan Ballard<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-Mk1a<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-Series I Alpine (V6)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Oct 8, 2021, at 12:56 PM, jimdamelio via Tigers =
<<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks for all the responses. I know what's =
original now.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div =
id=3D"composer_signature"><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt;color:#575757'>Sent from my =
Galaxy<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-------- Original message =
--------<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>From: Ron Fraser =
<<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Date: 10/8/21 11:56 AM =
(GMT-05:00) <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>To: =
'jimdamelio' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:jimdamelio@verizon.net";>jimdamelio@verizon.net</a>> =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net";>tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a> =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Subject: RE: [Tigers] =
Tiger PCV Adapter <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The short =
answer is NO. This picture is from Bob Mannel=E2=80=99s book pg. =
4-41.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The PCV =
valve threads into the Adaptor.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The =
pictures you sent =E2=80=93 that part could work but not original or =
correct for the Tiger engine.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I =
don=E2=80=99t believe the original Adaptor is available =E2=80=93 it is =
obsolete.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ford fazed =
the brass Adaptor part out as a cost reduction, replaced by the PCV hose =
with 2 right angles in 1965.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It is =
curious that even the MK II Part List shows this Adaptor. MK II =
does not use the brass Adaptor part.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I do not =
know when this change took place on the Tiger engine but my F21KA engine =
has the 2 right angle PCV hose.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b>=
Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-bounces@autox.team.n=
et</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>jimdamelio via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Friday, October 08, 2021 9:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> [Tigers] Tiger PCV Adapter<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I've attached two pictures and =
was wondering if this is the same adapter Rootes used on the =
Tiger. The early parts book lists the Ford # as 378754. The =
Mustang supplier's sell the pictured one for big block cars. Anyone =
still h</span>ave their original.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jim =
D<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"composer_signature"><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt;color:#575757'>Sent from my =
Galaxy</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p =
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