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To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>, 'Richard Bruner' <gammaman@mokancomm.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints
From: steve wick via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 12:44:46 +0000
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I'd be interested in hearing if someone comes up with a modern paint code. =
My car is supposed to be Midnight Blue, but was stripped and repainted red =
back in the mid '70's, so I don't have a spot where I can have the paint sh=
op scan the old paint.

Steve

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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Ron Fraser <rfras=
er@bluefrog.com>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:04 AM
To: 'Richard Bruner' <gammaman@mokancomm.net>
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <blance598@gmail.com>; tigers@autox.team.net <tigers@=
autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints


Richard

                You probably got those numbers from me.



The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translate =
to a paint mix.

Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but mos=
t do not.



Ron Fraser



From: Richard Bruner <gammaman@mokancomm.net>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <blance598@gmail.com>; tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints



This is what I had saved from somewhere:

Ditzler code: 12633
Dulux enamel: 97365
Chrysler #: 75242838
Burger code: 404.1710
ICI: 2983


On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
> Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =E2=80=93 Ditzler # 12633
>
>
>
> The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or translate
> well into the new paint codes of today.
>
> 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want for
> your car.
>
> If someone here has the current paint code for #58, pass it along.
>
>
>
> Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single stage
> or base coat/ clear coat.
>
> Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter=E2=80=
=99s
> preference.
>
>
>
> Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far
> as I know. I have asked about water base paints and they would not sell
> them to me.
>
> You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and
> cure water base paint.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
m.net>> On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp
> via Tigers
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM
m.net>>
> Subject: [Tigers] New paints
>
>
>
> My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a complete
> repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . My
> cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do base
> coat clear coat.
>
> I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products=
.
> Any ideas are appreciated. Beau
>
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I'd be interested in hearing if someone comes up with a modern paint code. =
My car is supposed to be Midnight Blue, but was stripped and repainted red =
back in the mid '70's, so I don't have a spot where I can have the paint sh=
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Richard</p>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
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The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translate =
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Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but mos=
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Ron Fraser</p>
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<b>From:</b> Richard Bruner &lt;gammaman@mokancomm.net&gt; <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ron Fraser &lt;rfraser@bluefrog.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Lance Beauchamp' &lt;blance598@gmail.com&gt;; tigers@autox.team=
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This is what I had saved from somewhere:<br>
<br>
Ditzler code: 12633<br>
Dulux enamel: 97365<br>
Chrysler #: 75242838<br>
Burger code: 404.1710<br>
ICI: 2983<br>
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On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:<br>
&gt; Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =E2=80=93 Ditzler # 12633<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or transla=
te<br>
&gt; well into the new paint codes of today.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want =
for<br>
&gt; your car.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If someone here has the current paint code for #58, pass it along.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single st=
age<br>
&gt; or base coat/ clear coat.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the painter=E2=
=80=99s<br>
&gt; preference.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as f=
ar<br>
&gt; as I know. I have asked about water base paints and they would not sel=
l<br>
&gt; them to me.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and=
<br>
&gt; cure water base paint.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ron Fraser<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
From: Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-bo=
unces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Lance Beauchamp<br>
&gt; via Tigers<br>
&gt; Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM<br>
&gt; To: Tiger Club. Submission &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net=
">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: [Tigers] New paints<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a compl=
ete<br>
&gt; repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . M=
y<br>
&gt; cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do b=
ase<br>
&gt; coat clear coat.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new produ=
cts.<br>
&gt; Any ideas are appreciated. Beau<br>
&gt;<br>
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