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Mike
You are correct. =20
In my experience with paints, I found single stage to be like painting =
enamel.
Base coat is like painting lacquer =E2=80=93 color has a flat sheen when =
painted
Clear coat is like painting enamel =E2=80=93 clear makes the color pop =
=E2=80=93 clear uses a catalyst so it cures nice and hard =20
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
From: Michael Wood <mwood24020@aol.com>=20
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 11:48 AM
To: rfraser@bluefrog.com; gammaman@mokancomm.net
Cc: blance598@gmail.com; tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints
=20
Single stage is harder for most painters to lay down (easier to hide =
stuff with two stage) and also requires much more work if there are any =
corrections needed down the road. Two stage also results in a harder =
surface. But, no doubt, single stage looks right on our cars. I went =
with two stage, no regrets.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
To: 'Richard Bruner' <gammaman@mokancomm.net =
Sent: Mon, Aug 30, 2021 8:08 am
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints
Richard
You probably got those numbers from me.
=20
The problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer =
translate to a paint mix.
Some paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but =
most do not.
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
From: Richard Bruner <gammaman@mokancomm.net =
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] New paints
=20
This is what I had saved from somewhere:
Ditzler code: 12633
Dulux enamel: 97365
Chrysler #: 75242838
Burger code: 404.1710
ICI: 2983
On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
> Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C Ditzler # =
12633
>
>
>
> The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or =
translate
> well into the new paint codes of today.
>
> 1st you need to see about getting the color match paint code you want =
for
> your car.
>
> If someone here has the current paint code for #58, pass it along.
>
>
>
> Any Automotive paint shop should be able to mix the paint in single =
stage
> or base coat/ clear coat.
>
> Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be determined by the =
painter=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s
> preference.
>
>
>
> Water base paints are sold to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as =
far
> as I know. I have asked about water base paints and they would not =
sell
> them to me.
>
> You really need a paint booth with correct equipment to spray, dry and
> cure water base paint.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
>
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
> via Tigers
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 8:40 AM
> To: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers@autox.team.net =
> Subject: [Tigers] New paints
>
>
>
> My 1964 Tiger thanks to a mishap and good insurance is getting a =
complete
> repaint, my question is what is now the preferred paint used today . =
My
> cars color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do =
base
> coat clear coat.
>
> I hear their is water based paints now, I'm not to up on the new =
products.
> Any ideas are appreciated. Beau
>
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Mike<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 You are correct.=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>In my experience with paints, I =
found single stage to be like painting enamel.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Base coat is like painting lacquer =E2=80=93 color has =
a flat sheen when painted<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Clear coat =
is like painting enamel =E2=80=93 clear makes the color pop =E2=80=93 =
clear uses a catalyst so it cures nice and hard =C2=A0<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Michael Wood <mwood24020@aol.com> =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 11:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
rfraser@bluefrog.com; gammaman@mokancomm.net<br><b>Cc:</b> =
blance598@gmail.com; tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Tigers] New paints<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Sin=
gle stage is harder for most painters to lay down (easier to hide stuff =
with two stage) and also requires much more work if there are any =
corrections needed down the road. Two stage also results in a harder =
surface. But, no doubt, single stage looks right on our cars. I went =
with two stage, no regrets.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Mik=
e<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Ron Fraser <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>><br>To: =
'Richard Bruner' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:gammaman@mokancomm.net";>gammaman@mokancomm.net</a>><br>=
Cc: 'Lance Beauchamp' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:blance598@gmail.com";>blance598@gmail.com</a>>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a><br>Sent: =
Mon, Aug 30, 2021 8:08 am<br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] New =
paints<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3Dyiv6795521281><div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ric=
hard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp; &nbs=
p; You probably got those numbers from =
me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
problem is that at my paint shop those old numbers no longer translate =
to a paint mix.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Som=
e paint shops may have those old paint codes and mixes available but =
most do not.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ron=
Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv6795521281yqt23221><p =
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m:</span></b><span =
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Richard Bruner <<a =
href=3D"mailto:gammaman@mokancomm.net";>gammaman@mokancomm.net</a>> =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 30, 2021 10:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ron =
Fraser <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>><br><b>C=
c:</b> 'Lance Beauchamp' <<a =
href=3D"mailto:blance598@gmail.com";>blance598@gmail.com</a>>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: [Tigers] New paints<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3Dyiv6795521281msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Thi=
s is what I had saved from somewhere:<br><br>Ditzler code: =
12633<br>Dulux enamel: 97365<br>Chrysler #: 75242838<br>Burger code: =
404.1710<br>ICI: 2983<br><br><br>On Mon, August 30, 2021 9:32 am, Ron =
Fraser via Tigers wrote:<br>> Paint code 58 is Midnight Blue =
=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=80=9C Ditzler # 12633<br>><br>><br>><br>> =
The problem is that these old paint codes do not correspond or =
translate<br>> well into the new paint codes of =
today.<br>><br>> 1st you need to see about getting the color match =
paint code you want for<br>> your car.<br>><br>> If someone =
here has the current paint code for #58, pass it =
along.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Any Automotive paint shop should =
be able to mix the paint in single stage<br>> or base coat/ clear =
coat.<br>><br>> Single stage or BC/CC will most likely be =
determined by the painter=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s<br>> =
preference.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Water base paints are sold =
to Professional Spray Paint Shops only as far<br>> as I know. I have =
asked about water base paints and they would not sell<br>> them to =
me.<br>><br>> You really need a paint booth with correct equipment =
to spray, dry and<br>> cure water base =
paint.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Ron =
Fraser<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>From: Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of =
Lance Beauchamp<br>> via Tigers<br>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 =
8:40 AM<br>> To: Tiger Club. Submission <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br>> Subject: =
[Tigers] New paints<br>><br>><br>><br>> My 1964 Tiger thanks =
to a mishap and good insurance is getting a complete<br>> repaint, my =
question is what is now the preferred paint used today . My<br>> cars =
color is midnight blue, I believe 58 is the number. Should I do =
base<br>> coat clear coat.<br>><br>> I hear their is water =
based paints now, I'm not to up on the new products.<br>> Any ideas =
are appreciated. Beau<br>><br>> =
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