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Sometimes the starter relay just quits. I had the starter relay work =
fine one day then fail the next day =E2=80=93 they can be fickle.
I hope you have had luck solving this problem.
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Please relay, to all, the Fel Pro part number for the 1 piece oil pan =
gasket; I=E2=80=99m sure others are interested too.
=20
Ron Fraser
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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of R Flynn via =
Tigers
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:09 AM
To: <tigers@Autox.Team.Net> <tigers@autox.team.net>
Cc: R Flynn <flynnr2@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft
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UPDATE & some additional questions after a 6 week hiatus for bruised =
ribs to heal ...
- Put car up on stands, dropped oil pan
- No retaining clip to be found on oil pump driveshaft or in pan
(either never there or fractured & came out with a previous oil change =
perhaps)
- New, beefier shaft *with* retaining clip appropriately placed (& new =
gasket) installed
- Buttoned everything back up, distributor straightforward to install =
now, found TDC in preparation for retiming, etc.
(FelPro 1 piece oil pan gasket w/snap screws makes things convenient, =
nice bit of design)
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Turned key, and got a big click sounding like starter is under load but =
certainly not spinning ... hence the following questions
=20
1) Any suggestions as to cause?
- Battery is fully charged, just came off conditioner
- Solenoid is less than 2Y old
- The starting system electrics were working fine before this adventure =
began
=20
2) Is it easier to just pull the oil pan again or get the starter out =
(vs headers)?
- It won't come out with headers & oil pan in situ
- I am working with in up on floor stands, creeper height in a narrow =
garage space
- *Since* I just pulled the oil pan, that seems like the most efficient =
route (and I suspect the FelPro gasket will be fine)
- Plus another gift from the previous builder is a sheared off (small) =
oil pan bolt on the front port corner (just next to the larger end bolt) =
that I really should Easy Out, will be easier with oil pan removed (was =
leaving it for another day ...)
=20
3) Any recommendations on whether one of those "mini starters" would be =
a good replacement & easier to get in / out without having to remove =
engine mounts, headers, or oil pans etc?
- DaleA put a Tremec TKO 5 speed in a few years ago for context
=20
Cheers in advance,
=20
Rick
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:47, R Flynn <flynnr2@gmail.com =
In trying to replace the distributor after changing my intake manifold =
on the =E2=80=9865 289 in my Tiger, I am struggling to get it to slide =
down over the oil pump shaft, which seems to be leaning over.
- tried jiggling the rotor
- tried turning the crank with a ratchet while applying gentle pressure =
to the distributor, though I was doing both
- tried using a long socket & extension to put the oil pump shaft itself =
in different orientations
=20
My next attempts will involve
- having someone else push down while I turn the crap with a ratchet
- trying to pack some grease around the shaft with a screwdriver prior =
to inserting the distributor to keep the oil pump shaft more centered
=20
Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words of wisdom.
=20
Cheers in advance,
=20
Rick
=20
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rick
B9471206: http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp
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rick
B9471206: http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sometimes =
the starter relay just quits.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I had the starter relay work =
fine one day then fail the next day =E2=80=93 they can be =
fickle.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I hope you have had luck =
solving this problem.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Please =
relay, to all, the Fel Pro part number for the 1 piece oil pan gasket; =
I=E2=80=99m sure others are interested too.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
<tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>R Flynn via =
Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:09 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
<tigers@Autox.Team.Net> =
<tigers@autox.team.net><br><b>Cc:</b> R Flynn =
<flynnr2@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Distributor =
-> Oil Pump Shaft<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>UPDATE & some =
additional questions after a 6 week hiatus for bruised ribs to heal =
...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>- Put car up on stands, dropped oil =
pan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>- No retaining clip to be found on oil pump =
driveshaft or in pan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> (either never =
there or fractured & came out with a previous oil change =
perhaps)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>- New, beefier shaft *with* retaining clip =
appropriately placed (& new gasket) =
installed<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>- Buttoned everything back up, distributor =
straightforward to install now, found TDC in preparation for retiming, =
etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> (FelPro 1 piece oil pan gasket w/snap =
screws makes things convenient, nice bit of =
design)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Turned key, and got a =
big click sounding like starter is under load but certainly not spinning =
... hence the following questions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>1) Any suggestions as =
to cause?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>- Battery is fully charged, just came off =
conditioner<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>- Solenoid is less than 2Y =
old<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>- The starting system electrics were working =
fine before this adventure began<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>2) Is it easier to =
just pull the oil pan again or get the starter out (vs =
headers)?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>- It won't come out with headers & oil =
pan in situ<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>- I am working with in up on floor stands, =
creeper height in a narrow garage =
space<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>- *Since* I just pulled the oil pan, that =
seems like the most efficient route (and I suspect the FelPro gasket =
will be fine)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>- Plus another gift from the previous builder =
is a sheared off (small) oil pan bolt on the front port corner (just =
next to the larger end bolt) that I really should Easy Out, will be =
easier with oil pan removed (was leaving it for another day =
...)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>3) Any =
recommendations on whether one of those "mini starters" =
would be a good replacement & easier to get in / out without having =
to remove engine mounts, headers, or oil pans =
etc?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>- DaleA put a Tremec TKO 5 speed in a few =
years ago for context<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Cheers in =
advance,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Rick<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:47, R Flynn <<a =
href=3D"mailto:flynnr2@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">flynnr2@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>In trying to replace the distributor =
after changing my intake manifold on the =E2=80=9865 289 in my Tiger, I =
am struggling to get it to slide down over the oil pump shaft, which =
seems to be leaning over.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>- tried jiggling the rotor<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>- tried turning the crank with a ratchet while =
applying gentle pressure to the distributor, though I was doing =
both<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>- tried using a long =
socket & extension to put the oil pump shaft itself in different =
orientations<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>My next attempts will =
involve<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>- having someone =
else push down while I turn the crap with a =
ratchet<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>- trying to pack =
some grease around the shaft with a screwdriver prior to inserting the =
distributor to keep the oil pump shaft more =
centered<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words of =
wisdom.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers in advance,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rick<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>-- =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>rick<br>B9471206: <a =
href=3D"http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp"; =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.as=
p</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>-- =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>rick<br>B9471206: <a =
href=3D"http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp"; =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.as=
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