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UPDATE & some additional questions after a 6 week hiatus for bruised ribs
to heal ...
- Put car up on stands, dropped oil pan
- No retaining clip to be found on oil pump driveshaft or in pan
(either never there or fractured & came out with a previous oil change
perhaps)
- New, beefier shaft *with* retaining clip appropriately placed (& new
gasket) installed
- Buttoned everything back up, distributor straightforward to install now,
found TDC in preparation for retiming, etc.
(FelPro 1 piece oil pan gasket w/snap screws makes things convenient,
nice bit of design)
Turned key, and got a big click sounding like starter is under load but
certainly not spinning ... hence the following questions
1) Any suggestions as to cause?
- Battery is fully charged, just came off conditioner
- Solenoid is less than 2Y old
- The starting system electrics were working fine before this adventure
began
2) Is it easier to just pull the oil pan again or get the starter out (vs
headers)?
- It won't come out with headers & oil pan in situ
- I am working with in up on floor stands, creeper height in a narrow
garage space
- *Since* I just pulled the oil pan, that seems like the most efficient
route (and I suspect the FelPro gasket will be fine)
- Plus another gift from the previous builder is a sheared off (small) oil
pan bolt on the front port corner (just next to the larger end bolt) that I
really should Easy Out, will be easier with oil pan removed (was leaving it
for another day ...)
3) Any recommendations on whether one of those "mini starters" would be a
good replacement & easier to get in / out without having to remove engine
mounts, headers, or oil pans etc?
- DaleA put a Tremec TKO 5 speed in a few years ago for context
Cheers in advance,
Rick
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:47, R Flynn <flynnr2@gmail.com> wrote:
> In trying to replace the distributor after changing my intake manifold on
> the =E2=80=9865 289 in my Tiger, I am struggling to get it to slide down =
over the
> oil pump shaft, which seems to be leaning over.
> - tried jiggling the rotor
> - tried turning the crank with a ratchet while applying gentle pressure t=
o
> the distributor, though I was doing both
> - tried using a long socket & extension to put the oil pump shaft itself
> in different orientations
>
> My next attempts will involve
> - having someone else push down while I turn the crap with a ratchet
> - trying to pack some grease around the shaft with a screwdriver prior to
> inserting the distributor to keep the oil pump shaft more centered
>
> Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words of wisdom.
>
> Cheers in advance,
>
> Rick
>
> --
> rick
> B9471206: http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp
>
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B9471206: http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">UPD=
ATE & some additional questions after a 6 week hiatus for bruised ribs =
to heal ...</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">- P=
ut car up on stands, dropped oil pan</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-size:small">- No retaining clip to be found on oil pump driveshaf=
t or in pan</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">=C2=
=A0 (either never there or fractured & came out with a previous oil cha=
nge perhaps)</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">- =
New, beefier shaft *with* retaining clip appropriately placed (& new ga=
sket) installed</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"=
>- Buttoned everything back up, distributor straightforward to install now,=
found TDC in preparation for retiming, etc.</div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-size:small">=C2=A0 (FelPro 1 piece oil pan gasket w/snap =
screws makes things convenient, nice bit of design)</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
style=3D"font-size:small">Turned key, and got a big click sounding like st=
arter is under load but certainly not spinning ... hence the following ques=
tions</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">1) Any suggestions =
as to cause?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">- =
Battery is fully charged, just came off conditioner</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-size:small">- Solenoid is less than 2Y old</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">- The starting system =
electrics were working fine before this adventure began</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-size:small">2) Is it easier to just pull the oil pan aga=
in or get the starter out (vs headers)?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-size:small">- It won't come out with headers & oil pan=
in situ</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">- I am=
working with in up on floor stands, creeper height in a narrow garage spac=
e</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">- *Since* I j=
ust pulled the oil pan, that seems like the most efficient route (and I sus=
pect the FelPro gasket will be fine)</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-size:small">- Plus another gift from the previous builder is a sh=
eared off (small) oil pan bolt on the front port corner (just next to the l=
arger end bolt) that I really should Easy Out, will be easier with oil pan =
removed (was leaving it for another day ...)</div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-size:small">3) Any recommendations on whether one of those=C2=A0 &=
quot;mini starters" would be a good replacement & easier to get in=
/ out without having to remove engine mounts, headers, or oil pans etc?</d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">- DaleA put a Tre=
mec TKO 5 speed in a few years ago for context</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-size:small">Cheers in advance,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-size:small">Rick</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:47, R Flynn <<a href=
=3D"mailto:flynnr2@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">flynnr2@gmail.com</a>> w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"auto">In trying to replace the distributor after changing my intake man=
ifold on the =E2=80=9865 289 in my Tiger, I am struggling to get it to slid=
e down over the oil pump shaft, which seems to be leaning over.</div><div d=
ir=3D"auto">- tried jiggling the rotor</div><div dir=3D"auto">- tried turni=
ng the crank with a ratchet while applying gentle pressure to the distribut=
or, though I was doing both</div><div dir=3D"auto">- tried using a long soc=
ket & extension to put the oil pump shaft itself in different orientati=
ons</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">My next attempts wil=
l involve</div><div dir=3D"auto">- having someone else push down while I tu=
rn the crap with a ratchet</div><div dir=3D"auto">- trying to pack some gre=
ase around the shaft with a screwdriver prior to inserting the distributor =
to keep the oil pump shaft more centered</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"auto">Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words of wisd=
om.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Cheers in advance,</=
div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Rick</div><div dir=3D"aut=
o"><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr">rick<br>B9471206: <a href=3D"http://ww=
w.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp" target=3D"_blank">http://w=
ww.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp</a></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>rick<br>B9471206: <a href=3D"http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/=
default.asp" target=3D"_blank">http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r=
/default.asp</a></div>
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