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Subject: Re: [Tigers] valve extractor for tool kit
From: Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 12:41:50 -0800
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Since I seem to be the point of many comments (not just this one), YES, I h=
ave heard of and know what a Schrader valve is. HOWEVER, neither in the ori=
ginal post nor in the Ebay item (I found) that was worded IDENTICALLY as th=
e post was the word TIRE (or tube) ever used. So, there was NO inclination =
that the tool was used in conjunction with a tire. And from the Ebay ad the=
re was nothing to compare the items size. So, there was no knowing how larg=
e or small it was. I do not have a tool kit to compare, and TBON was alread=
y stated as not providing what the original poster was looking for.

Thus was my thinking going to known =E2=80=9Cvalves=E2=80=9D in a Tiger. An=
d the only other valves I though of were; the engine valves, heater control=
 valve and possible a radio  vacuum tube using a British term =E2=80=9Cvalv=
e=E2=80=9D (Reference Tim Hunkin =E2=80=9DSecret Life of Machines=E2=80=9D)=
 and the tool was used for some type of electronic adjustment. Also, a thir=
d of my working life I was a TV Studio technician and we often used very si=
milar looking tools to adjust cameras, hence the mental connection for radi=
o adjustment.

BTW, these were merely suggestions (=E2=80=9Ccould=E2=80=9D), I admitted to=
 the term (sans the word tire) was =E2=80=9Ccofounding=E2=80=9D because I c=
ould not think of ANY reason (with the exception of a radio adjustment) a p=
lastic tool would be used for those other stated purposes. In essence I was=
 ruling out most of those things I mentioned.

So, yea, I get it. The simplicity of the tool once revealed makes even me g=
rin at myself a little bit. But, please, have a little mercy. Had the word =
TIRE or, yes, even Schrader valve been used I would not have overthought my=
 reply.  Which by the way was (I believe) the first one some 17 hours after=
 the initial question was posed =E2=80=93 and others could have had amply o=
pportunity =E2=80=93 but didn=E2=80=99t.

From: Tom Hall via Tigers 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 9:47 PM
To: tigers@autox.team.net 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] valve extractor for tool kit

On 1/3/2019 8:06 AM, Tom Witt via Tigers wrote:

  You must be talking about this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sunbeam-Tiger-Al=
pine-Plastic-Valve-Stem-Extractor-for-tool-kit/332984724770?hash=3Ditem4d87=
6fad22:g:r9wAAOSwFSxZ~Mb5:rk:1:pf:0 as an item of the exact name is on Ebay=
 now.

  The term itself seems confounding. I can only think of two types of valve=
s in a Tiger. The 16 valves in the engine and the heater control valve. Giv=
en the engine valve stem and head are one you would not be =E2=80=9Cextract=
ing=E2=80=9D one from the other and surely not with plastic.  I=E2=80=99ve =
never had the heater valve apart but from its appearance this device seems =
to have little or no purpose.  Could it be that the word =E2=80=9Cvalve=E2=
=80=9D has an expanded British meaning?  I know they often call vacuum tube=
s =E2=80=9Cvalves.=E2=80=9D  Frankly it looks like a shaft for a radio knob=
=2E.., or a tool for adjusting old style potentiometers , capacitors etc..

I'm dumbfounded.  Have none of you ever heard of a Schrader valve?  It's wh=
at holds the air in your tires!


-- 
Tom Hall
ModTiger Engineering LLC
5712 San Luis Court
Pleasanton, CA 94566
modtiger@comcast.net
(925)462-3876
www.tigerengineering.net 

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<DIV>Since I seem to be the point of many comments (not just this one), YES=
, I 
have heard of and know what a Schrader valve is. HOWEVER, neither in the 
original post nor in the Ebay item (I found) that was worded IDENTICALLY as=
 the 
post was the word TIRE (or tube) ever used. So, there was NO inclination th=
at 
the tool was used in conjunction with a tire. And from the Ebay ad there wa=
s 
nothing to compare the items size. So, there was no knowing how large or sm=
all 
it was. I do not have a tool kit to compare, and TBON was already stated as=
 not 
providing what the original poster was looking for.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thus was my thinking going to known =E2=80=9Cvalves=E2=80=9D in a Tige=
r. And the only other 
valves I though of were; the engine valves, heater control valve and possib=
le a 
radio&nbsp; vacuum tube using a British term =E2=80=9Cvalve=E2=80=9D (Refer=
ence Tim Hunkin 
=E2=80=9DSecret Life of Machines=E2=80=9D) and the tool was used for some t=
ype of electronic 
adjustment. Also, a third of my working life I was a TV Studio technician a=
nd we 
often used very similar looking tools to adjust cameras, hence the mental 
connection for radio adjustment.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>BTW, these were merely suggestions (=E2=80=9Ccould=E2=80=9D), I admitt=
ed to the term (sans 
the word tire) was =E2=80=9Ccofounding=E2=80=9D because I could not think o=
f ANY reason (with 
the exception of a radio adjustment) a plastic tool would be used for those=
 
other stated purposes. In essence I was ruling out most of those things I 
mentioned.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>So, yea, I get it. The simplicity of the tool once revealed makes even=
 me 
grin at myself a little bit. But, please, have a little mercy. Had the word=
 TIRE 
or, yes, even Schrader valve been used I would not have overthought my 
reply.&nbsp; Which by the way was (I believe) the first one some 17 hours a=
fter 
the initial question was posed =E2=80=93 and others could have had amply op=
portunity =E2=80=93 
but didn=E2=80=99t.</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dtigers@autox.team.=
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href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>Tom Hall via Tigers</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 03, 2019 9:47 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dtigers@autox.team.net 
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] valve extractor for tool kit</DIV></DIV><=
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<DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix>On 1/3/2019 8:06 AM, Tom Witt via Tigers 
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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  <DIV>You must be talking about this: <A 
  title=3Dhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/Sunbeam-Tiger-Alpine-Plastic-Valve-Stem-=
Extractor-for-tool-kit/332984724770?hash=3Ditem4d876fad22:g:r9wAAOSwFSxZ~Mb=
5:rk:1:pf:0 
  href=3D"https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sunbeam-Tiger-Alpine-Plastic-Valve-Stem-=
Extractor-for-tool-kit/332984724770?hash=3Ditem4d876fad22:g:r9wAAOSwFSxZ~Mb=
5:rk:1:pf:0" 
  moz-do-not-send=3D"true">https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sunbeam-Tiger-Alpine-Pl=
astic-Valve-Stem-Extractor-for-tool-kit/332984724770?hash=3Ditem4d876fad22:=
g:r9wAAOSwFSxZ~Mb5:rk:1:pf:0</A> 
  as an item of the exact name is on Ebay now.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>The term itself seems confounding. I can only think of two types of =

  valves in a Tiger. The 16 valves in the engine and the heater control val=
ve. 
  Given the engine valve stem and head are one you would not be =E2=80=9Cex=
tracting=E2=80=9D one 
  from the other and surely not with plastic.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99ve never had =
the heater 
  valve apart but from its appearance this device seems to have little or n=
o 
  purpose.&nbsp; Could it be that the word =E2=80=9Cvalve=E2=80=9D has an e=
xpanded British 
  meaning?&nbsp; I know they often call vacuum tubes =E2=80=9Cvalves.=E2=80=
=9D&nbsp; Frankly it 
  looks like a shaft for a radio knob..., or a tool for adjusting old style=
 
  potentiometers , capacitors etc..</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>I'm dumbfounded.&nbsp; Have none of you ever heard of a Schrader valve?&=
nbsp; 
It's what holds the air in your tires!<BR></P><PRE class=3Dmoz-signature co=
ls=3D"72">-- 
Tom Hall
ModTiger Engineering LLC
5712 San Luis Court
Pleasanton, CA 94566
<A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated href=3D"mailto:modtiger@comcast.net";>mo=
dtiger@comcast.net</A>
(925)462-3876
<A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated href=3D"http://www.tigerengineering.net=
">www.tigerengineering.net</A> </PRE>
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