Re: [Tigers] Front Suspension

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I=20agree,=20the=20A-arms=20are=20the=20most=20likely=20suspects.=20A=20sway=20b=
ar=20bound=20in=20the=20bushings=20can=20also=20have=20some=20affect,=20but=20ty=
pically=20not=20to=20the=20degree=20you've=20described.=0D=0A?=0D=0ADid=20you=20=
assemble=20the=20front=20end=20or=20was=20it=20done=20by=20someone=20else?=20My=20=
first=20thought=20is=20the=20A-arms=20were=20torqued=20with=20the=20wheels=20at=20=
full=20droop,=20either=20on=20a=20lift=20or=20jackstands.=0D=0A=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=0D=
=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A-----Original=20Message-----=0D=0AFrom:=20Joel=20Martin=20via=20T=
igers=20<tigers@autox.team.net>=0D=0ATo:=20Tiger=20List=20Serve=20<tige=
rs@autox.team.net>=0D=0ASent:=20Sun,=20Jan=2017,=202016=205:55=20pm=0D=0ASubj=
ect:=20Re:=20[Tigers]=20Front=20Suspension=0D=0A=0D=0A=20=20Thanks=20all.=0D=0A=0D=
=0A=0D=0AWhen=20I=20say=20stock=20springs,=20they=20have=20the=20same=20dimensio=
ns=20(thickness,=20coils)=20as=20stock=20springs.=20?They=20are=20the=20ones=20o=
n=20the=20car=20from=201979=20when=20I=20bought=20it.=20?I=20believe=20the=20spr=
ing=20rubber=20is=20from=20CAT.=20?Koni=20shock=20are=20older=20and=20have=20bee=
n=20tested=20off=20the=20car=20for=20proper=20rebound,=20compression=20and=20see=
m=20right.=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AWhile=20the=20sit=20hight=20does=20not=20concern=20m=
e=20too=20much,=20although=20definitely=20a=20front=20to=20rear=20slope,=20it=20=
is=20the=20fact=20that=20something=20truly=20seems=20to=20be=20'bound=20up'.=20?=
Pushing=20on=20the=20fenders,=20moves=20things=20very=20little=20and=20I=20mean=20=
very=20little.=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A15"=20wheels=20with=20205/50/15=20Yokohama=20S=20=
drive=20tires=20at=20this=20point=20on=20the=20front,=20not=20yet=20fitted=20the=
=20rears.=20?Trying=20to=20find=20out=20what=20is=20'binding'=20up=20the=20front=
=20suspension=20is=20my=20main=20concern.=20?=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0ALoosing=20up=20up=
per=20and=20lower=20control=20arms,=20maybe=20removing=20the=20front=20sway=20ba=
r,=20trying=20some=20rubber=20bushing=20lube=20would=20be=20my=20next=20steps=20=
and=20re=20tighten=20nuts=20on=20control=20arms=20after=20short=20drive=20with=20=
weight=20on=20suspension=20are=20probably=20my=20next=20steps.=20?The=20only=20b=
inding=20I=20can=20think=20of=20is=20the=20upper=20and=20lower=20control=20arms=20=
unless=20someone=20can=20think=20of=20something=20else=20that=20I=20should=20loo=
k=20at??=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0ARegards=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AJoel=20Martin=0D=0A=0D=0A=20=0D=
=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=20=20=20=20=20=20=20From:=20Ron=20Fraser=20<rfraser@bluefrog.=
com>=0D=0A=20To:=20'Joel=20Martin'=20<jmartiniii@yahoo.com>=20=0D=0ACc:=
=20tigers@Autox.Team.Net=0D=0A=20Sent:=20Sunday,=20January=2017,=202016=207:38=20=
PM=0D=0A=20Subject:=20RE:=20[Tigers]=20Front=20Suspension=0D=0A=20=20=0D=0A=20=0D=
=0A=20Joel=0D=0A=20?=0D=0A=20???=20If=20you=20look=20at=20original=20pictures=20=
of=20=20the=20Tiger=20you=20will=20see=20they=20sit=20high.??=20The=20taller=20t=
ires=20of=20the=20day=20=20made=20it=20look=20OK.??=20The=20shorter=20tires=20of=
=20today=20make=20it=20look=20=20wrong.=0D=0A=20There=20=20is=20a=20spec=20in=20=
the=20shop=20manual=20ride=20height;=20check=20it.=0D=0A=20?=0D=0A=20All=20=20su=
spension=20components=20should=20be=20tightened=20in=20a=20loaded=20position=20t=
o=20not=20put=20the=20=20parts=20in=20bind.=0D=0A=20?=0D=0A=20I=20=20don't=20bel=
ieve=20the=20sway=20bar=20can=20be=20mounted=20upside=20down.=0D=0A=20?=0D=0A=20=
I=20=20believe=20I=20used=20the=20thinner?Mustang=20II=20rubber=20cushion=20on=20=
top=20of=20the=20springs=20=20to=20lower=20the=20front=20end=20a=20little.=0D=0A=
=20?=0D=0A=20Ron=20=20Fraser=0D=0A=20=20=20=20=0D=0A=20=20=20-----Original=20Mes=
sage-----From:=20Tigers=20=20=20=20[mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net]=20On=20=
Behalf=20Of=20Joel=20Martin=20via=20=20=20=20TigersSent:=20Sunday,=20January=201=
7,=202016=205:56=20PMTo:=20Tiger=20=20=20=20List=20ServeSubject:=20[Tigers]=20Fr=
ont=20Suspension=0D=0A=20=20=20=20=20=20Since=20it=20has=20been=20so=20quiet,=20=
I=20thought=20=20=20=20I=20would=20throw=20one=20out.=20?My=20front=20suspension=
=20is=20sooo=20stiff=20and=20the=20height=20=20=20=20is=202-3=20inches=20in=20my=
=20mind=20higher=20than=20it=20should=20be.=20?Rebuilt=20suspension,=20=20=20=20=
welded=20up=20per=20CAT=20instructions,=20stock=20springs,=20Koni=20shocks=20-=20=
old=20and=20all=20new=20=20=20=20rubber=20etc.=0D=0A=20=20=20=0D=0A=20=20=20The=20=
front=20has=20no=20bounce=20at=20all.=20=20=20=20?First=20idea=20is=20to=20loose=
n=20upper=20and=20lower=20control=20arm=20bolts,=20drive=20just=20a=20=20=20=20b=
it=20and=20then=20re-tighten.=20?Can=20you=20put=20the=20front=20anti=20sway=20b=
ar=20on=20upside=20=20=20=20down=20-=20not=20sure=20is=20could=20be=20a=20proble=
m=20or=20not.=20?Bushing=20grease=20on=20all=20new=20=20=20=20rubber?=0D=0A=20=20=
=20=0D=0A=20=20=20Thoughtsideas=20would=20be=20=20=20=20appreciated.=0D=0A=20=20=
=20=0D=0A=20=20=20Joel=20Martin,=20=20MK1A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=
=0A=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20=20=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20=20=20=20________=
_______________________________________=20=20tigers@autox.team.net=20=20Donate:=20=
s:=20http://www.team.net/forums=20Unsubscribe:=20http://autox.team.net/mailman/o=
ptions/tigers/mwood24020@aol.com=20=20=20=20=0D=0A=20=20=0A=0A
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=0D=0A<div>I=20agree,=20the=20A-arms=20are=20the=20most=20likely=20suspects.=20A=
=20sway=20bar=20bound=20in=20the=20bushings=20can=20also=20have=20some=20affect,=
=20but=20typically=20not=20to=20the=20degree=20you've=20described.</div>=0D=0A=0D=
=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div>Did=20you=20assemble=20the=20front=20end=20=
or=20was=20it=20done=20by=20someone=20else?=20My=20first=20thought=20is=20the=20=
A-arms=20were=20torqued=20with=20the=20wheels=20at=20full=20droop,=20either=20on=
=20a=20lift=20or=20jackstands.</div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div=20style=3D"color:=20black;=20=
font-family:=20arial;=20font-size:=2010pt;"><span=20style=3D"display:=20inline-b=
lock;"=20contenteditable=3D"false"></span></div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div>=20<br>=0D=0A</=
div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div><br>=0D=0A</div>=0D=0A-----Original=20Message-----<br>=0D=0A=
From:=20Joel=20Martin=20via=20Tigers=20&lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;<br>=0D=0ATo=
:=20Tiger=20List=20Serve=20&lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;<br>=0D=0ASent:=20Sun,=20=
Jan=2017,=202016=205:55=20pm<br>=0D=0ASubject:=20Re:=20[Tigers]=20Front=20Suspen=
sion<br>=0D=0A<br>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div=20id=3D"AOLMsgPart_2_6f93abe9-3aeb-4b74-ac=
c7-6a3a48c78c71">=20=0D=0A<div=20class=3D"aolReplacedBody">=0D=0A<div=20style=3D=
"color:=20rgb(0,=200,=200);=20font-family:=20garamond,=20new=20york,=20times,=20=
serif;=20font-size:=2016px;=20background-color:=20rgb(255,=20255,=20255);">=0D=0A=
<div=20id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966"><span=20id=3D"aolmail_yui=
_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56206">Thanks=20all.</span></div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div=20id=3D=
"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966"><span><br>=0D=0A</span></div>=0D=0A=0D=
=0A<div=20id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966"><span=20id=3D"aolmail_=
yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56208">When=20I=20say=20stock=20springs,=20they=20hav=
e=20the=20same=20dimensions=20(thickness,=20coils)=20as=20stock=20springs.=20&nb=
sp;They=20are=20the=20ones=20on=20the=20car=20from=201979=20when=20I=20bought=20=
it.=20&nbsp;I=20believe=20the=20spring=20rubber=20is=20from=20CAT.=20&nbsp;Koni=20=
shock=20are=20older=20and=20have=20been=20tested=20off=20the=20car=20for=20prope=
r=20rebound,=20compression=20and=20seem=20right.</span></div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div=20=
id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966"><span><br>=0D=0A</span></div>=0D=
=0A=0D=0A<div=20id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966"><span=20id=3D"ao=
lmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56276">While=20the=20sit=20hight=20does=20not=20=
concern=20me=20too=20much,=20although=20definitely=20a=20front=20to=20rear=20slo=
pe,=20it=20is=20the=20fact=20that=20something=20truly=20seems=20to=20be=20'bound=
=20up'.=20&nbsp;Pushing=20on=20the=20fenders,=20moves=20things=20very=20little=20=
and=20I=20mean=20very=20little.</span></div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div=20id=3D"aolmail_yui=
_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966"><span><br>=0D=0A</span></div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div=20i=
d=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966"=20dir=3D"ltr"><span=20id=3D"aolma=
il_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56307">15"=20wheels=20with=20205/50/15=20Yokohama=20=
S=20drive=20tires=20at=20this=20point=20on=20the=20front,=20not=20yet=20fitted=20=
the=20rears.=20&nbsp;Trying=20to=20find=20out=20what=20is=20'binding'=20up=20the=
=20front=20suspension=20is=20my=20main=20concern.=20&nbsp;</span></div>=0D=0A=0D=
=0A<div=20id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966"=20dir=3D"ltr"><span><b=
r>=0D=0A</span></div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div=20id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381=
_55966"=20dir=3D"ltr"><span=20id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56359">Lo=
osing=20up=20upper=20and=20lower=20control=20arms,=20maybe=20removing=20the=20fr=
ont=20sway=20bar,=20trying=20some=20rubber=20bushing=20lube=20would=20be=20my=20=
next=20steps=20and=20re=20tighten=20nuts=20on=20control=20arms=20after=20short=20=
drive=20with=20weight=20on=20suspension=20are=20probably=20my=20next=20steps.=20=
&nbsp;The=20only=20binding=20I=20can=20think=20of=20is=20the=20upper=20and=20low=
er=20control=20arms=20unless=20someone=20can=20think=20of=20something=20else=20t=
hat=20I=20should=20look=20at?&nbsp;</span></div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div=20id=3D"aolmail=
_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966"=20dir=3D"ltr"><span><br>=0D=0A</span></div>=0D=
=0A=0D=0A<div=20id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966"=20dir=3D"ltr"><s=
pan>Regards</span></div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div=20id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714=
381_55966"=20dir=3D"ltr"><span><br>=0D=0A</span></div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div=20id=3D"a=
olmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966"=20dir=3D"ltr"><span>Joel=20Martin</span=
></div>=0D=0A<br>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div=20class=3D"aolmail_qtdSeparateBR"=20id=3D"a=
olmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56212"><br>=0D=0A<br>=0D=0A</div>=0D=0A=0D=0A<=
div=20class=3D"aolmail_yahoo_quoted"=20id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_=
56366"=20style=3D"display:=20block;">=20=20=0D=0A<div=20id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0=
_1_1452860714381_56365"=20style=3D"font-family:=20garamond,=20new=20york,=20time=
s,=20serif;=20font-size:=2016px;">=20=0D=0A<div=20id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_145=
2860714381_56364"=20style=3D"font-family:=20HelveticaNeue,=20Helvetica=20Neue,=20=
Helvetica,=20Arial,=20Lucida=20Grande,=20sans-serif;=20font-size:=2016px;">=20=0D=
=0A<div=20id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56363"=20dir=3D"ltr">=20<font=
=20id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56510"=20face=3D"Arial"=20size=3D"2"=
>=20<hr=20size=3D"1">=20<b><span=20style=3D"font-weight:=20bold;">From:</span></=
b>=20Ron=20Fraser=20&lt;<a=20href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefr=
og.com</a>&gt;<br>=0D=0A=20<b><span=20style=3D"font-weight:=20bold;">To:</span><=
/b>=20'Joel=20Martin'=20&lt;<a=20href=3D"mailto:jmartiniii@yahoo.com";>jmartiniii=
@yahoo.com</a>&gt;=20<br>=0D=0A<b><span=20style=3D"font-weight:=20bold;">Cc:</sp=
an></b>=20<a=20href=3D"mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net";>tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a><b=
r>=0D=0A=20<b><span=20style=3D"font-weight:=20bold;">Sent:</span></b>=20Sunday,=20=
January=2017,=202016=207:38=20PM<br>=0D=0A=20<b><span=20style=3D"font-weight:=20=
bold;">Subject:</span></b>=20RE:=20[Tigers]=20Front=20Suspension<br>=0D=0A=20</f=
ont>=20</div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div=20class=3D"aolmail_y_msg_container"=20id=3D"aol=
mail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56374"><br>=0D=0A=0D=0A<div=20id=3D"aolmail_yiv0=
395032359">=0D=0A<div=20id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56373">=20=0D=0A=
<div><font=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20face=3D"Arial"=20size=3D"2"><span=20class=3D"ao=
lmail_yiv0395032359625253000-18012016">Joel</span></font></div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<d=
iv><font=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20face=3D"Arial"=20size=3D"2"><span=20class=3D"aolm=
ail_yiv0395032359625253000-18012016"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<d=
iv><font=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20face=3D"Arial"=20size=3D"2"><span=20class=3D"aolm=
ail_yiv0395032359625253000-18012016">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20If=20you=20look=20at=20=
original=20pictures=20of=20=20the=20Tiger=20you=20will=20see=20they=20sit=20high=
.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20The=20taller=20tires=20of=20the=20day=20=20made=20it=20look=20OK=
.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20The=20shorter=20tires=20of=20today=20make=20it=20look=20=20wrong=
.</span></font></div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div><font=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20face=3D"Ari=
al"=20size=3D"2"><span=20class=3D"aolmail_yiv0395032359625253000-18012016">There=
=20=20is=20a=20spec=20in=20the=20shop=20manual=20ride=20height;=20check=20it.</s=
pan></font></div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div><font=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20face=3D"Arial"=20=
size=3D"2"><span=20class=3D"aolmail_yiv0395032359625253000-18012016"></span></fo=
nt>&nbsp;</div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div><font=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20face=3D"Arial"=20=
size=3D"2"><span=20class=3D"aolmail_yiv0395032359625253000-18012016">All=20=20su=
spension=20components=20should=20be=20tightened=20in=20a=20loaded=20position=20t=
o=20not=20put=20the=20=20parts=20in=20bind.</span></font></div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<d=
iv><font=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20face=3D"Arial"=20size=3D"2"><span=20class=3D"aolm=
ail_yiv0395032359625253000-18012016"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<d=
iv><font=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20face=3D"Arial"=20size=3D"2"><span=20class=3D"aolm=
ail_yiv0395032359625253000-18012016">I=20=20don't=20believe=20the=20sway=20bar=20=
can=20be=20mounted=20upside=20down.</span></font></div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div><font=
=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20face=3D"Arial"=20size=3D"2"><span=20class=3D"aolmail_yiv0=
395032359625253000-18012016"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div=20id=3D=
"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56372"><font=20id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_14=
52860714381_56371"=20color=3D"#0000ff"=20face=3D"Arial"=20size=3D"2"><span=20cla=
ss=3D"aolmail_yiv0395032359625253000-18012016"=20id=3D"aolmail_yui_3_16_0_1_1452=
860714381_56370">I=20=20believe=20I=20used=20the=20thinner&nbsp;Mustang=20II=20r=
ubber=20cushion=20on=20top=20of=20the=20springs=20=20to=20lower=20the=20front=20=
end=20a=20little.</span></font></div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div><font=20color=3D"#0000f=
f"=20face=3D"Arial"=20size=3D"2"><span=20class=3D"aolmail_yiv0395032359625253000=
-18012016"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A<div><font=20color=3D"#0000f=
f"=20face=3D"Arial"=20size=3D"2"><span=20class=3D"aolmail_yiv0395032359625253000=
-18012016">Ron=20=20Fraser</span></font></div>=0D=0A=20<blockquote=20style=3D"ma=
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