I always understood "concours" to mean in pristine condition and exactly as
it was manufactured. My only point was that a car could not be a concours
car if it has been altered. It may be a very nice and/or perfect car but
with the wrong engine, etc., it is not concours.
A friend of my brother-in-law's is a judge at the national level for
concours events. One time there were two MG-TDs that were equal. The tie
breaker was the fan belt tension. One car had it correct at 8 1/2 pounds the
other was not! The correct one got 1st place.
The point again is accurate descriptions are important. For another example
check out the below listed car and it's description. Pay special attention
to "original" and then what he says was engineered for this conversion!
I quote "It is as original as you can get with a customized 327 Chevy Engine
and a 350 Turbo 3 speed Automatic Transmission. "
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=460790346
Likewise with "restored" as opposed to "rebuilt". To me, restored is put
back to factory specs. Rebuilt could mean repaired to like new condition but
not to stock specs. A restored engine would not have a bigger cam, higher
compression, different carb, etc. A rebuilt engine could!
Kent
1960 Bugeye (rebuilt not restored)
----- Original Message -----
From frogeye <frogeye at gateway.net>
To: Brad Fornal <toyman@digitex.net>; Charley & Peggy Robinson
<ccrobins@ktc.com>
Cc: <Ajhsys@aol.com>; <Bushwacker4@prodigy.net>; <Spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: "Concours" Restoration
> Dear concerned,
> Charley and Peggy are correct. It is "concourse condition" [sic] that the
> seller was trying to convey in his text. I personally know the seller and
> the car. Both are concours in my humble opinion.
>
> Dave@Taos Garage Annex in Albuquerque
> 59 AH :{) 54 BN1
>
> Click below for webpage and mopeds:
> http://ibelong.koz.com/ibn/ignore?MIval=cge&GID=01039011420945892954943146
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Fornal" <toyman@digitex.net>
> To: "Charley & Peggy Robinson" <ccrobins@ktc.com>
> Cc: <Ajhsys@aol.com>; <Bushwacker4@prodigy.net>;
<Spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 7:57 AM
> Subject: Re: "Concours" Restoration
>
>
> > That is why we are all here Charlie, to learn from each other!! I made
> the
> > mistake of making my first question to the list the Morris vs. B.L.
thread
> > (check the archives if you want on that one). Man, did I see a bit of a
> > conversation on that score <G>. Anyway, you should never hesitate to ask
a
> > question, because more often than not, someone else will learn from the
> > answers that you receive. Brad
> >
> > Charley & Peggy Robinson wrote:
> >
> > > Shux, I didn't read the text, just looked at the pic. So I went
back
> > > and looked again. The guy said "restored to concours _condition_",
not
> > > that it was a concours example. Seems fair enuff to me, if you read
it
> > > carefully. Don't know if the seller was trying to mislead or not,
can't
> > > get into his head.
> > >
> > > Guess I shouldn't have asked since I don't know jack about Sprites.
> > > Er, well I guess that's why I _did ask_.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > CR
> >
> >
>
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