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Re: [Shop-talk] password lmanager software

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] password lmanager software
From: Peter Murray <peterwmurray@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:29:21 -0400
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Sorry to arrive late to this discussion, but it's been a busy summer!

In my opinion as an IT/security engineer, password managers are mandatory.
It's a perfect example of "Never send a man to do a machine's job." Our
brains aren't adapted to randomness, which is needed with good security
practice.

I also used LastPass for years (they had a "free" version that made them
attractive, but it also made them a big target).As explained earlier, they
failed to keep the trust of their users by not disclosing their breaches,
so I've migrated from them to 1Password. I've been very happy with it, and
have found it highly reliable.
I don't like using the browser password managers, as I haven't found them
to be sufficiently secure. 1Password does handle Passkeys as well. It also
reminds you to update passwords that have been exposed in a breach, and has
a very good password generator.
I've looked at BitWarden (they have a self-hosted version), but haven't had
enough time to give it a run through.

-Peter

On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at 8:30=E2=80=AFPM Donald H Locker <dhlocker@protonmail=
.com>
wrote:

> Hello, John.
>
> I use KeePass (keepass.info) on my laptop running Ubuntu 18.04; it's also
> available for Apple and Micrisoft operating systems. Very easy to set up;
> good security (if you use a good password for the database file); easy to
> use; room for notes as well as login id, password, associated websites, a=
nd
> a very good password generator.
>
> HTH,
> Donald.
> On 2024-07-05 12:20, john niolon wrote:
>
> shop content... my tool inventory and all my shop related stuff is on my
> pc.
>
> I looking into password manager software and am as dumb as a rock...
>
> I need cheap... easy to use.... low maintenance... ability for a elder to
> use
>
> recommendations ??
>
> john
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry to arrive late to this discussion, but it&#39;s been=
 a busy summer!<div><br></div><div>In my opinion as an IT/security engineer=
, password managers are mandatory. It&#39;s a perfect example of &quot;Neve=
r send a man to do a machine&#39;s job.&quot; Our brains aren&#39;t adapted=
 to randomness, which is needed with good security practice.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>I also used LastPass for years (they had a &quot;free&quot; vers=
ion that made them attractive, but it also made them a big target).As expla=
ined earlier, they failed to keep the trust of their users by not disclosin=
g their breaches, so I&#39;ve migrated from them to 1Password. I&#39;ve bee=
n very happy with it, and have found it highly reliable.=C2=A0</div><div>I =
don&#39;t like using the browser password managers, as I haven&#39;t found =
them to be sufficiently secure. 1Password does handle Passkeys as well. It =
also reminds you to update passwords that have been exposed in a breach, an=
d has a very good password generator.</div><div>I&#39;ve looked at BitWarde=
n (they have a self-hosted version), but haven&#39;t had enough time to giv=
e it a run through.</div><div><br></div><div>-Peter</div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 6, 202=
4 at 8:30=E2=80=AFPM Donald H Locker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dhlocker@protonm=
ail.com">dhlocker@protonmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
   =20
 =20
  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
    <p>Hello, John.</p>
    <p>I use KeePass (<a href=3D"https://keepass.info/"; target=3D"_blank">k=
eepass.info</a>)
      on my laptop running Ubuntu 18.04; it&#39;s also available for Apple
      and Micrisoft operating systems. Very easy to set up; good
      security (if you use a good password for the database file); easy
      to use; room for notes as well as login id, password, associated
      websites, and a very good password generator.<br>
    </p>
    <p>HTH,<br>
      Donald.<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 2024-07-05 12:20, john niolon wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
     =20
      <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">shop content... my tool inventory and
          all my shop related stuff is on my pc.</font></div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">I looking into password manager
          software and am as dumb as a rock...</font></div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">I need cheap... easy to use.... low
          maintenance... ability for a elder to use</font></div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">recommendations ??</font></div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div><font face=3D"Segoe UI">john</font></div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
    </blockquote>


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