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Re: [Shop-talk] password lmanager software

To: "'john niolon'" <jniolon@att.net>, "'shop-talk'" <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] password lmanager software
From: <alfuller194@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:06:58 -0700
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I use BitWarden, which I find fairly easy to use. It will store =
passwords, other sensitive info and passkeys (when and especially IF =
they ever gain traction beyond the walled gardens various companies have =
set up).=20

=20

I used LastPass for many years, but they were hacked and refused to come =
clean about it. Then they were hacked again and a copy of =
everyone=E2=80=99s password vaults were lost =E2=80=93 all the while the =
company again refused to come clean until independent security =
researchers outed them. That wouldn=E2=80=99t be so bad **IF** there had =
been robust encryption protecting them on the server side, but =
alas=E2=80=A6 People=E2=80=99s vaults have been decrypted =E2=80=93 =
starting with the high-value accounts like crypto-currency wallets, etc =
=E2=80=93 leading to massive losses for those folks and massive waste of =
time for the rest of us who had to go through our logins and change the =
passwords again. I currently have 485 logins and 100 secure notes in my =
vault, and shudder to think about having to go in and try to reset any =
substantial portion of them. Again.

=20

Either way, using any of the major password managers to generate long, =
strong passwords is way, way better than using passwords you can =
remember!

=20

-----------------------------------

All the best,

=20

Al Fuller

=20

From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of john =
niolon
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2024 9:21 AM
To: shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Shop-talk] password lmanager software

=20

shop content... my tool inventory and all my shop related stuff is on my =
pc.

=20

I looking into password manager software and am as dumb as a rock...

=20

I need cheap... easy to use.... low maintenance... ability for a elder =
to use

=20

recommendations ??

=20

john

=20


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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I use BitWarden, which I find fairly easy to =
use. It will store passwords, other sensitive info and passkeys (when =
and especially IF they ever gain traction beyond the walled gardens =
various companies have set up). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I used LastPass for =
many years, but they were hacked and refused to come clean about it. =
Then they were hacked again and a copy of everyone=E2=80=99s password =
vaults were lost =E2=80=93 all the while the company again refused to =
come clean until independent security researchers outed them. That =
wouldn=E2=80=99t be so bad **IF** there had been robust encryption =
protecting them on the server side, but alas=E2=80=A6 People=E2=80=99s =
vaults have been decrypted =E2=80=93 starting with the high-value =
accounts like crypto-currency wallets, etc =E2=80=93 leading to massive =
losses for those folks and massive waste of time for the rest of us who =
had to go through our logins and change the passwords again. I currently =
have 485 logins and 100 secure notes in my vault, and shudder to think =
about having to go in and try to reset any substantial portion of them. =
Again.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Either way, using any =
of the major password managers to generate long, strong passwords is =
way, way better than using passwords you can =
remember!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>-------------=
----------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All the =
best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Al =
Fuller<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Shop-talk &lt;shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>john niolon<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 5, 2024 9:21 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> shop-talk =
&lt;shop-talk@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] password =
lmanager software<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>shop content... my tool =
inventory and all my shop related stuff is on my =
pc.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>I =
looking into password manager software and am as dumb as a =
rock...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>I =
need cheap... easy to use.... low maintenance... ability for a elder to =
use</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe =
UI",sans-serif'>recommendations ??</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe =
UI",sans-serif'>john</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>
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