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Depends on the failure mode.=C2=A0 Most batteries loose plate area and can =
produce less current than when new and that is when the cranking slows down=
.=C2=A0 These modern cars start so quickly that one may not notice that the=
cranking speed is slower than normal.=C2=A0 That happened to me on my Fies=
ta.=C2=A0 One day it seemed fine, the next it cranked over quite slowly and=
the next day it wouldn't start.=C2=A0 Load testing will give ample warning=
as the guys who changed my oil a few months before warned me my battery ca=
pacity was low.
On the other hand, it an internal link between the cells breaks loose the f=
ailure will be instantaneous and there is no way to predict those.=C2=A0 If=
your battery won't recharge it may be because of this failure.=C2=A0=20
Dave=20
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On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 12:35:42 AM CST, Dwade Reinsch <drein=
sch@swbell.net> wrote: =20
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This afternoon I was sitting in the 2016 Honda Odyssey van waiting for gr=
anddaughter to finish a theater activity and I went to sleep in the front s=
eat.=C2=A0 Had the radio and inside lights on.=C2=A0 When she finished and =
came out, car would not start.=C2=A0 Completely dead.=C2=A0 Electric seat w=
ould not come back to driving position, etc.
Here's the question:=C2=A0 In the old days a weak battery would give notice=
by cranking slowly, etc., before failing.=C2=A0 This is the car I drive re=
gularly and it gave NO warning.=C2=A0 Luckily, I could call son-in-law and =
he came to help.=C2=A0 Would not start with good set of booster cables.=C2=
=A0 Would not start with 15 minutes of charging on cables before attempting=
to start.=C2=A0 So in the morning I'll take pickup and tools and pull batt=
ery, get a replacement, and move the van home.
Does anyone have a suggestion for identifying a failing battery before bein=
g stranded?=C2=A0 (Battery is about 4 years old.)
Thanks,Dwade_______________________________________________
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=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Depends on the failure mode. Most batt=
eries loose plate area and can produce less current than when new and that =
is when the cranking slows down. These modern cars start so quickly t=
hat one may not notice that the cranking speed is slower than normal. =
That happened to me on my Fiesta. One day it seemed fine, the next i=
t cranked over quite slowly and the next day it wouldn't start. Load =
testing will give ample warning as the guys who changed my oil a few months=
before warned me my battery capacity was low.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">On the=
other hand, it an internal link between the cells breaks loose the failure=
will be instantaneous and there is no way to predict those. If your =
battery won't recharge it may be because of this failure. <br></div><=
div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp7d2da35dsignature"><div style=3D"color: blac=
k; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size=
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weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal;=
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font size=3D"4">Dave <br></font></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
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On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 12:35:42 AM CST, Dwad=
e Reinsch <dreinsch@swbell.net> wrote:
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<div dir=3D"ltr">This afternoon I was sitting in the 2016 Honda Ody=
ssey van waiting for granddaughter to finish a theater activity and I went =
to sleep in the front seat. Had the radio and inside lights on. =
When she finished and came out, car would not start. Completely dead=
. Electric seat would not come back to driving position, etc.</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Here's the questio=
n: In the old days a weak battery would give notice by cranking slowl=
y, etc., before failing. This is the car I drive regularly and it gav=
e NO warning. Luckily, I could call son-in-law and he came to help.&n=
bsp; Would not start with good set of booster cables. Would not start=
with 15 minutes of charging on cables before attempting to start. So=
in the morning I'll take pickup and tools and pull battery, get a replacem=
ent, and move the van home.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Does anyone have a suggestion for identifying a failing ba=
ttery before being stranded? (Battery is about 4 years old.)</div><di=
v id=3D"ydp70464edcyiv4925439253yqtfd53440" class=3D"ydp70464edcyiv49254392=
53yqt6617431241"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Thanks,</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dwade</div></div></div></div><div clas=
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