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Re: [Shop-talk] Troubleshooting a fluttering gas oven

To: John Innis <jdinnis@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Troubleshooting a fluttering gas oven
From: Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org>
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 16:47:06 -0400
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Natural gas. We're on a cul de sac, I'll see if any of the neighbors =
have the same issue.

jim

> On Aug 22, 2023, at 4:44 PM, John Innis <jdinnis@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Is this a propane house or natural gas house?  I know on propane =
installations you can get this if the vent on the pressure regulator is =
clogged or damaged, but I have not seen that sort of thing in a natural =
gas system.  Maybe ask your gas supplier?  I know our propane provider =
had a preferred contractor that did our Nat to LP conversion when we =
bought a new gas dryer.
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> On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 3:40=E2=80=AFPM Jim Franklin =
> I have a Magic Chef gas range and occasionally the oven will "flutter" =
and take a long time to come up to temp. I bought a clamp ammeter and =
tested the igniter current and it's at 2.9 - 3.0 amps, right where it =
should be. Of course there was no fluttering during this test :-)
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> Is it possible for these things to fail intermittently or are they =
pretty steady even as they're going bad?=20
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> Not to introduce a red herring but sometimes I hear similar fluttering =
from the water heater, and sometimes the stovetop burners won't light, =
and sometimes their flame sounds like it has extra pressure, or another =
non-reactive gas in it because they make jet noises.=20
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> This is a rental and I'm on good terms with the landlord and her dog =
is dying so I don't want to burden her with petty things if there's =
nothing really wrong, but I also don't want my roasts to not cook or the =
house to blow up.=20
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> thanks,
> jim
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class=3D"">Natural gas. We're on a cul de sac, I'll see if any of the =
neighbors have the same issue.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">jim<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">Is =
this a propane house or natural gas house?&nbsp; I know on propane =
installations you can get this if the vent on the pressure regulator is =
clogged or damaged, but I have not seen that sort of thing in a natural =
gas system.&nbsp; Maybe ask your gas supplier?&nbsp; I know our propane =
provider had a preferred contractor that did our Nat to LP conversion =
when we bought a new gas dryer.<br class=3D""></div><br =
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none;"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at =
3:40=E2=80=AFPM Jim Franklin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jamesf@groupwbench.org"=
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border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">I have a =
Magic Chef gas range and occasionally the oven will "flutter" and take a =
long time to come up to temp. I bought a clamp ammeter and tested the =
igniter current and it's at 2.9 - 3.0 amps, right where it should be. Of =
course there was no fluttering during this test :-)<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Is it possible for these things to fail intermittently or are =
they pretty steady even as they're going bad?<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Not to introduce a red herring but sometimes I hear similar =
fluttering from the water heater, and sometimes the stovetop burners =
won't light, and sometimes their flame sounds like it has extra =
pressure, or another non-reactive gas in it because they make jet =
noises.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">This is a rental and I'm on good terms with =
the landlord and her dog is dying so I don't want to burden her with =
petty things if there's nothing really wrong, but I also don't want my =
roasts to not cook or the house to blow up.<span =
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