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Re: [Shop-talk] Ceiling Paint

To: David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Ceiling Paint
From: Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 19:32:33 -0400
Cc: Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
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"Another thing: if you haven't painted with zero/low voc paints, they =
dry fast.=E2=80=9D

Boy, you aren=E2=80=99t kidding! I actually got this email while I was =
in the middle of painting my first set of walls.  (More on the ceilings =
in a subsequent email.)  This was my first experience with Low VOC =
paint.  I had seen references to low or no VOC paints but not paid much =
attention to the difference.  Based on several online reviews, I used =
Sherwin-Williams HGTV Infinity paint.  =
https://www.lowes.com/pd/HGTV-HOME-by-Sherwin-Williams-HGTV-HOME-by-Sherwi=
n-Williams-Infinity-Interior-Satin-Ultra-White/5005508285. Reviews of =
the paint mentioned its low VOC content as one of its benefits, but =
tended to recommend it based on other factors.  In the end, I am happy =
with the way it went on and we did get good one coat coverage (on new =
drywall with two coats of PVA primer) but man, does that stuff dry fast! =
 Fortunately, my wife and I were working together on the walls; she was =
cutting in the edges and I was rolling the primer behind her.  We were =
able to keep a wet edge by working together, but it would have been next =
to impossible to do alone.

I would not have started with the low VOC paint had I known what I know =
now, as dry time will be an issue when I am painting the stairwell.  My =
plan was always to add Floetrol =
(https://www.flood.com/products/paint-additives/floetrol-latex-based-paint=
-additive) to the paint to slow down the drying there.  If need be, I =
will also feather the paint where I think it may dry too fast and hope =
to be able to blend it in without getting a line. =20

Wish me luck.

Jim

> On May 30, 2023, at 3:46 PM, David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Another thing: if you haven't painted with zero/low voc paints, they
> dry fast.  You probably learned "wet edge" techniques.  forget them.
> zero voc paint drys too fast.  Do your cutting in, and let it dry.
> Then do your field painting.  If you attempt to paint over a partially
> dried coat, you will pull it up, and make a mess.
>=20
> Depending on how fast you are, and how big your job is, you may be
> able to start painting immediately after you finishing cutting in, but
> you will probably have to wait a bit.
>=20
> --=20
> David Scheidt
> dmscheidt@gmail.com


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color=3D"#0433ff">"Another thing: if you haven't painted with zero/low =
voc paints, they dry fast.=E2=80=9D</font><div><br></div><div>Boy, you =
aren=E2=80=99t kidding! I actually got this email while I was in the =
middle of painting my first set of walls. &nbsp;(More on the ceilings in =
a subsequent email.) &nbsp;This was my first experience with Low VOC =
paint. &nbsp;I had seen references to low or no VOC paints but not paid =
much attention to the difference. &nbsp;Based on several online reviews, =
I used Sherwin-Williams HGTV Infinity paint. &nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.lowes.com/pd/HGTV-HOME-by-Sherwin-Williams-HGTV-HOME-b=
y-Sherwin-Williams-Infinity-Interior-Satin-Ultra-White/5005508285">https:/=
/www.lowes.com/pd/HGTV-HOME-by-Sherwin-Williams-HGTV-HOME-by-Sherwin-Willi=
ams-Infinity-Interior-Satin-Ultra-White/5005508285</a>. Reviews of the =
paint mentioned its low VOC content as one of its benefits, but tended =
to recommend it based on other factors. &nbsp;In the end, I am happy =
with the way it went on and we did get good one coat coverage (on new =
drywall with two coats of PVA primer) but man, does that stuff dry fast! =
&nbsp;Fortunately, my wife and I were working together on the walls; she =
was cutting in the edges and I was rolling the primer behind her. =
&nbsp;We were able to keep a wet edge by working together, but it would =
have been next to impossible to do alone.</div><div><br></div><div>I =
would not have started with the low VOC paint had I known what I know =
now, as dry time will be an issue when I am painting the stairwell. =
&nbsp;My plan was always to add Floetrol (<a =
href=3D"https://www.flood.com/products/paint-additives/floetrol-latex-base=
d-paint-additive">https://www.flood.com/products/paint-additives/floetrol-=
latex-based-paint-additive</a>) to the paint to slow down the drying =
there. &nbsp;If need be, I will also feather the paint where I think it =
may dry too fast and hope to be able to blend it in without getting a =
line. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Wish me =
luck.</div><div><br></div><div>Jim</div><div><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On May 30, 2023, at 3:46 PM, David Scheidt =
&lt;dmscheidt@gmail.com&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>Another thing: if you =
haven't painted with zero/low voc paints, they<br>dry fast. &nbsp;You =
probably learned "wet edge" techniques. &nbsp;forget them.<br>zero voc =
paint drys too fast. &nbsp;Do your cutting in, and let it dry.<br>Then =
do your field painting. &nbsp;If you attempt to paint over a =
partially<br>dried coat, you will pull it up, and make a =
mess.<br><br>Depending on how fast you are, and how big your job is, you =
may be<br>able to start painting immediately after you finishing cutting =
in, but<br>you will probably have to wait a bit.<br><br>-- <br>David =
Scheidt<br>dmscheidt@gmail.com<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div=
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