Re: [Shop-talk] Coast in Neutral -the next great debate- one final thought

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 Big trucks have a device called a Jake Brake that increases the normal com=
pression braking.
Here is s snip from this website:=C2=A0 https://www.truckingtruth.com/wiki/=
topic-91/jake-brake

It is a separate component installed on diesel engines, that when engaged, =
releases stored, compressed air from the cylinder at the top of the piston'=
s stroke, preventing it from from returning it's energy to the crankshaft a=
nd powering the down-stroke, and slowing the vehicle as the air is compress=
ed.
When engaged they produce an objectionable amount of noise which is why the=
y are banned in some residential areas.=C2=A0 But they are effective in red=
ucing the amount of brake use and an 18-wheeler has 10 sets of brakes so...
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From: John Innis <jdinnis@gmail.com>
To: eric@megageek.com
Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, Dec 13, 2022 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Coast in Neutral -the next great debate- one final=
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Not sure if you tell with a car, but a big truck you can hear the differenc=
e.=C2=A0 Even without using a compression brake they do make some noise whe=
n going down hill in gear.=C2=A0 There is a long gentle hill coming into to=
wn not far from where I live.=C2=A0 It always seems the commercial vehicle =
enforcement cars (aka Diesel cops) are staked out there around harvest time=
.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 2:59 PM <eric@megageek.com> wrote:

Thanks for everyonethat gave me input.

My only questionis, How would a cop know you are coasting?

I mean, I wasa cop and never thought about it.

Any ideas?

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<div> <font size="3">Big trucks have a device called a Jake Brake that 
increases the normal compression braking.</font></div>

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<div><font size="3">Here is s snip from this website:&nbsp; 
https://www.truckingtruth.com/wiki/topic-91/jake-brake<br>
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<div><span style="font-style: italic;">It is a separate component installed on 
diesel engines, that when 
engaged, releases stored, compressed air from the cylinder at the top of
 the piston's stroke, preventing it from from returning it's energy to 
the crankshaft and powering the down-stroke, and slowing the vehicle as 
the air is compressed.</span></div>

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<div><font size="3">When engaged they produce an objectionable amount of noise 
which is why they are banned in some residential areas.&nbsp; But they are 
effective in reducing the amount of brake use and an 18-wheeler has 10 sets of 
brakes so...</font><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Not sure if you tell with a car, but a big truck you can hear 
the difference.&nbsp; Even without using a compression brake they do make some 
noise when going down hill in gear.&nbsp; There is a long gentle hill coming 
into town not far from where I live.&nbsp; It always seems the commercial 
vehicle enforcement cars (aka Diesel cops) are staked out there around harvest 
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<div id="yiv2458046592yqtfd98843" class="yiv2458046592yqt4257130173"><span 
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Thanks for everyone
that gave me input.</span>
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<br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">My only 
question
is, How would a cop know you are coasting?</span>
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<br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I mean, I 
was
a cop and never thought about it.</span>
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<br clear="none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Any 
ideas?</span>
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