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Re: [Shop-talk] What's the deal with impact torx sockets?

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] What's the deal with impact torx sockets?
From: Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 10:27:02 -0700
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I vote for triple square as the worst based on my experience with my 
wife's VW Jetta rear brake caliper brackets, which you have to remove to 
change the disks.  This is a southern CA car with no corrosion.  I 
bought the correct size Lisle bit from my local auto parts store, but it 
would not seat.  I tried a pick to clean the grooves and even a hammer 
to seat the bit with no luck.  Access is near impossible and these bolts 
are tight.

Ordered a different triple square socket set and that bit fit.  Tip to 
tip, the two bits look identical.  Still difficult to remove the bolts.  
Was able to get enough torque on a 1/2" breaker bar that went to about 
100 degrees while bouncing my 200 pounds.  Could not get a comfortable 
way to use an impact driver without lots of bend on a universal joint.

Brian


On 5/30/2021 4:17 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote:
> OK, first, WHY DO THEY USE TORX IN HIGH TORQUE APPLICATIONS?
>
> These are the WORST fasteners I have ever used. (less flat blade 
> screwdrivers.)
>
> Then, if they are going to use them, why can't they make a Torx impact 
> socket set that doesn't twist and brake the first time you use it?
>
> OK, with that off my chest...
>
> What is the THE BRAND/SET of torx impact sockets that I can rely on? 
>  At this point, price isn't really an issue.  I just want a set that I 
> can use in an impact gun and remove a bolt without breaking every 
> time.  I would want a complete set of sizes, but it seems that I 
> always break the T40 first (it seems to be the most common size.)
>
> FWIW, my first real injury while turning wrenches was with a Torx over 
> 25 years ago.  I was trying to remove a brake component off of a 
> Lumina and the bit broke, and the wrench chipped my tooth.
>
> TO THIS DAY, whenever I have to reach for a torx socket, I still taste 
> that broken tooth!  And, I have not found a set of torx that are worth 
> a darn.
>
> So, please help me.  What set do I need?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Moose.
>
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    I vote for triple square as the worst based on my experience with my
    wife's VW Jetta rear brake caliper brackets, which you have to
    remove to change the disks.  This is a southern CA car with no
    corrosion.  I bought the correct size Lisle bit from my local auto
    parts store, but it would not seat.  I tried a pick to clean the
    grooves and even a hammer to seat the bit with no luck.  Access is
    near impossible and these bolts are tight. <br>
    <br>
    Ordered a different triple square socket set and that bit fit.  Tip
    to tip, the two bits look identical.  Still difficult to remove the
    bolts.  Was able to get enough torque on a 1/2" breaker bar that
    went to about 100 degrees while bouncing my 200 pounds.  Could not
    get a comfortable way to use an impact driver without lots of bend
    on a universal joint.<br>
    <br>
    Brian<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/30/2021 4:17 AM, <a 
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:eric@megageek.com";>eric@megageek.com</a>
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      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">OK, first, WHY DO THEY USE TORX
        IN HIGH
        TORQUE APPLICATIONS?</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">These are the WORST fasteners I
        have
        ever used. (less flat blade screwdrivers.)</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Then, if they are going to use
        them,
        why can't they make a Torx impact socket set that doesn't twist
        and brake
        the first time you use it?</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">OK, with that off my chest...</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">What is the THE BRAND/SET of torx
        impact
        sockets that I can rely on?  At this point, price isn't really
        an
        issue.  I just want a set that I can use in an impact gun and
        remove
        a bolt without breaking every time.  I would want a complete set
        of
        sizes, but it seems that I always break the T40 first (it seems
        to be the
        most common size.)</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">FWIW, my first real injury while
        turning
        wrenches was with a Torx over 25 years ago.  I was trying to
        remove
        a brake component off of a Lumina and the bit broke, and the
        wrench chipped
        my tooth.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">TO THIS DAY, whenever I have to
        reach
        for a torx socket, I still taste that broken tooth!  And, I have
        not
        found a set of torx that are worth a darn.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">So, please help me.  What set do
        I need?</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Thanks.</font>
      <br>
      <br>
      <font size="2" face="sans-serif">Moose.</font>
      <br>
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