Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump

[Barrie Robinson <barrob@bell.net>]

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Hello folks,

I used to race an Australian Sydney Habour Skiff - now there's a boat to 
stress you out !!!   No stays to hold the mast up!   So drop in wind 
could be wildly exciting to say nothing of waves washing over the 
gunnels.  With a crew of 5 one was doing nothing else but bailing.

Cheers
Barrie

On 6/30/2021 7:13 AM, Robert's New iPad wrote:
> Â  Â Fireballs are hot boats, fun to sail. Â I tried, but failed, to get 
> a class established in CT.
> Â  Â When I taught sailing, back then, my encouragement to the 
> non-winners was that the race winners rarely learned much, but that 
> those behind had many examples of better sailing.
> Â  Â Mandatory MG content: Â My TD towed a Penguin dinghy on a trailer 
> for short distances, and an MGB towed a Laser dinghy many miles.
> Â  Â I had to look up the VJ dinghy. Â  Aussies sail harder than we do. 
> That is a fast boat, large sail plan, looks to be a hoot.
> Bob
>
> On Jun 30, 2021, at 12:32 AM, Simon Matthews 
>
>> If we are talking racing dinghies, I once came 6th in the US Fireball 
>> national championships.
>>
>> Simon
>> P.S. There were 7 boats in the competition.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 8:39 AM Barrie Robinson <barrob@bell.net 
>>
>>     I raced a home built VJ, Australia's two person dingy, for a
>>     season.  It was offered to me by the chap who built it, and
>>     subjected to the condition I took his daughter as second person.
>>     Â  She was a scorcher and I had no qualms having her as my
>>     partner. Â Â  The sails where made by the bloke's wife and were
>>     marginally better than wet toast. Â  I was awarded a cup by the
>>     club for being last every race. The daughter and  I became firm
>>     friends and I visited her many times when she went to the Sadlers
>>     Wells Ballet School UK - she was a ballerina....... Not a "Flying
>>     Dutchman" but an "Iona".   Oh, for submission endorsement...I was
>>     driving an MG TD in those days!
>>
>>     Barrie
>>
>>     On 6/28/2021 6:20 PM, Robert's New iPad wrote:
>>>     Â  Â  He is in USA, though we would like to think the Flying
>>>     Dutchman is you.
>>>     Â  Â  Years ago, I sailed a two-person dinghy named Flying
>>>     Dutchman.  Nice boats, fast and fun.
>>>     Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Jun 28, 2021, at 2:51 PM, <h.duinhoven@planet.nl
>>>
>>>>     Now, I wonder who this Flying Dutchman is!
>>>>
>>>>     Not me!
>>>>
>>>>     Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>     Hans - mostly on wired wheels = 71 BGT, his race bike or one of
>>>>     his three seventies Puch mopeds
>>>>
>>>>     *Van:* Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net
>>>>     *Verzonden:* donderdag 24 juni 2021 15:24
>>>>     *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump
>>>>
>>>>     According to The Flying Dutchman, self styled water pump
>>>>     expert, the water pumps these days are crap.  If you want real
>>>>     quality, have him rebuild one for you.  it will last.
>>>>
>>>>     http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/
>>>>     <http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/>
>>>>
>>>>     Sadly, Racestorations in England makes a billet aluminum water
>>>>     pump for that other brand. Not for us.
>>>>
>>>>     *From:*Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net
>>>>     New iPad
>>>>     *Sent:* Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:01 AM
>>>>     *To:* Osborne, Paul <paul@ece.rochester.edu
>>>>     *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump
>>>>
>>>>     Â One imagines, seemingly foolishly, that the low production
>>>>     costs in a certain eastern nation would be so low that
>>>>     additional quality could be built included at an acceptable
>>>>     selling price.
>>>>
>>>>     Â One is so often disappointed.
>>>>
>>>>     Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On Jun 24, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Osborne, Paul
>>>>
>>>>         Not to sure if I would complain about the price if I
>>>>         received a quality not have ing to return it 3 times to get
>>>>         a good one!!!  Part.    Why canâ??t we just get good part.
>>>>
>>>>         Paul
>>>>
>>>>             Paul Osborne
>>>>             Department of Electrical and Computer Eng
>>>>             University of Rochester
>>>>             201 Hopeman Building RC
>>>>             Rochester NY 14627
>>>>
>>>>         Â  Â 585-275-5226
>>>>
>>>>             On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Dan DiBiase
>>>>             wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             Right. And if they were we'd be b*tching about the price!
>>>>
>>>>             Dan D
>>>>
>>>>             '76B, '65B
>>>>
>>>>             Central NJ USA
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>>>>             On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73
>>>>             <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com
>>>>
>>>>                 I would never expect it to be. How much stuff like
>>>>                 this is made in England these days, or America for
>>>>                 that matter?
>>>>
>>>>                     ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>>                     Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB
>>>>                     GT from Moss.  Made in England, NOT!
>>>>
>>>>                     Mike MacLean
>>>>
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    <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Hello folks,<br>
        <br>
        I used to race an Australian Sydney Habour Skiff - now there's a
        boat to stress you out !!!   No stays to hold the mast up!   So
        drop in wind could be wildly exciting to say nothing of waves
        washing over the gunnels.  With a crew of 5 one was doing
        nothing else but bailing.<br>
        <br>
        Cheers<br>
        Barrie<br>
      </font></font><br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/30/2021 7:13 AM, Robert's New iPad
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:01017FF5-AFA2-4662-B46C-C6DE8B7573CC@gmail.com">
      <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <div dir="ltr">Â  Â Fireballs are hot boats, fun to sail. Â I tried,
        but failed, to get a class established in CT. Â </div>
      <div dir="ltr">Â  Â When I taught sailing, back then, my
        encouragement to the non-winners was that the race winners
        rarely learned much, but that those behind had many examples of
        better sailing.</div>
      <div dir="ltr">Â  Â Mandatory MG content: Â My TD towed a Penguin
        dinghy on a trailer for short distances, and an MGB towed a
        Laser dinghy many miles. </div>
      <div dir="ltr">Â  Â I had to look up the VJ dinghy. Â  Aussies sail
        harder than we do. That is a fast boat, large sail plan, looks
        to be a hoot.</div>
      <div dir="ltr">Bob</div>
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
        On Jun 30, 2021, at 12:32 AM, Simon Matthews &lt;<a
          href="mailto:simon.d.matthews@gmail.com";
          moz-do-not-send="true">simon.d.matthews@gmail.com</a>&gt;
        wrote:<br>
        <br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <div dir="ltr">
          <div dir="ltr">
            <div>If we are talking racing dinghies, I once came 6th in
              the US Fireball national championships. <br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Simon</div>
            <div>P.S. There were 7 boats in the competition. <br>
            </div>
          </div>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">
            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at
              8:39 AM Barrie Robinson &lt;<a
                href="mailto:barrob@bell.net"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">barrob@bell.net</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
              <div> <font size="-1"><font face="Arial">I raced a home
                    built VJ, Australia's two person dingy, for a
                    season.  It was offered to me by the chap who built
                    it, and subjected to the condition I took his
                    daughter as second person. Â  She was a scorcher and
                    I had no qualms having her as my partner. Â Â  The
                    sails where made by the bloke's wife and were
                    marginally better than wet toast. Â  I was awarded a
                    cup by the club for being last every race. The
                    daughter and  I became firm friends and I visited
                    her many times when she went to the Sadlers Wells
                    Ballet School UK - she was a ballerina....... Not a
                    "Flying Dutchman" but an "Iona".   Oh, for
                    submission endorsement...I was driving an MG TD in
                    those days!<br>
                    <br>
                    Barrie<br>
                  </font></font><br>
                <div>On 6/28/2021 6:20 PM, Robert's New iPad wrote:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <div dir="ltr">Â  Â  He is in USA, though we would like
                    to think the Flying Dutchman is you.</div>
                  <div dir="ltr">Â  Â  Years ago, I sailed a two-person
                    dinghy named Flying Dutchman.  Nice boats, fast and
                    fun.</div>
                  <div dir="ltr">Bob</div>
                  <div dir="ltr"><br>
                  </div>
                  <div dir="ltr"><br>
                    On Jun 28, 2021, at 2:51 PM, &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl";
                      target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>&gt;
                    &lt;<a href="mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl";
                      target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br>
                    <br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div dir="ltr">
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Now, I
                            wonder who this Flying Dutchman is! </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Not 
me!</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Â </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Cheers,
                          </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hans -
                            mostly on wired wheels = 71 BGT, his race
                            bike or one of his three seventies Puch
                            mopeds</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Â </span></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> Mgs &lt;<a
                                href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net";
                                target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                              <b>Namens </b>dave<br>
                              <b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 24 juni 2021
                              15:24<br>
                              <b>Aan:</b> 'mglist' &lt;<a
                                href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net";
                                target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
                              <b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water
                              Pump</p>
                          </div>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Â </p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">According
                            to The Flying Dutchman, self styled water
                            pump expert, the water pumps these days are
                            crap.  If you want real quality, have him
                            rebuild one for you.  it will last. </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><a
                              href="http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/";
                              target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/</a></span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Sadly,
                            Racestorations in England makes a billet
                            aluminum water pump for that other brand. 
                            Not for us.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span 
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                                lang="EN-US"> Mgs &lt;<a
                                  href="mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net";
                                  target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert's New iPad<br>
                                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 24, 2021
                                8:01 AM<br>
                                <b>To:</b> Osborne, Paul &lt;<a
                                  href="mailto:paul@ece.rochester.edu";
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                                <b>Cc:</b> mglist &lt;<a
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                                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water
                                Pump</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Â  Â 
                              Â One imagines, seemingly foolishly, that
                              the low production costs in a certain
                              eastern nation would be so low that
                              additional quality could be built included
                              at an acceptable selling price.</span></p>
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                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Â  Â 
                              Â One is so often disappointed.</span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Bob</span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
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                              On Jun 24, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Osborne, Paul
                              &lt;<a
                                href="mailto:paul@ece.rochester.edu";
                                target="_blank" 
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                              wrote:</span></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Not
                                to sure if I would complain about the
                                price if I received a quality not have
                                ing to return it 3 times to get a good
                                one!!!  Part.    Why canâ??t we just get
                                good part.  </span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
lang="EN-US">Paul</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
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lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
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                                        lang="EN-US">Paul Osborne<br>
                                        Department of Electrical
                                        and Computer Eng<br>
                                        University of Rochester <br>
                                        201 Hopeman Building RC<br>
                                        Rochester NY 14627</span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      lang="EN-US">Â  Â 585-275-5226</span></p>
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                                      lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
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lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        lang="EN-US">On Jun 24, 2021, at
                                        7:27 AM, Dan DiBiase &lt;<a
                                          href="mailto:dan.dibiase@gmail.com";
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                                        wrote:</span></p>
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                                      lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          lang="EN-US">Right. And if
                                          they were we'd be b*tching
                                          about the price! </span></p>
                                      <div>
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                                            lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            lang="EN-US">Dan D</span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            lang="EN-US">'76B, '65B</span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            lang="EN-US">Central NJ USA<br
                                              clear="all">
                                          </span></p>
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                                                  lang="EN-US"><a
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__dandibiase.cbintouch.com_&amp;d=DwMFaQ&amp;c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&amp;r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&amp;m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&amp;s=rB7b6mXC14LK5_ZVAHMbqbWFGF3hnm7nP3norZF7jEM&amp;e=";
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                                            lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
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                                        lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                            lang="EN-US">On Thu, Jun 24,
                                            2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73
                                            &lt;<a
                                              
href="mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com";
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                lang="EN-US">I would
                                                never expect it to be. 
                                                How much stuff like this
                                                is made in England these
                                                days, or America for
                                                that matter?</span></p>
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                                                lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
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                                                  Original Message -----
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                                                  lang="EN-US">Â </span></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                  lang="EN-US">Just
                                                  received my new water
                                                  pump for my 1969 MGB
                                                  GT from Moss.  Made in
                                                  England, NOT! </span></p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                    lang="EN-US">Mike
                                                    MacLean</span></p>
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