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Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump

To: Barrie Robinson <barrob@bell.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump
From: Simon Matthews <simon.d.matthews@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 21:32:31 -0700
Cc: MGS <mgs@autox.team.net>
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If we are talking racing dinghies, I once came 6th in the US Fireball
national championships.

Simon
P.S. There were 7 boats in the competition.

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 8:39 AM Barrie Robinson <barrob@bell.net> wrote:

> I raced a home built VJ, Australia's two person dingy, for a season.  It
> was offered to me by the chap who built it, and subjected to the conditio=
n
> I took his daughter as second person.   She was a scorcher and I had no
> qualms having her as my partner.    The sails where made by the bloke's
> wife and were marginally better than wet toast.   I was awarded a cup by
> the club for being last every race. The daughter and  I became firm frien=
ds
> and I visited her many times when she went to the Sadlers Wells Ballet
> School UK - she was a ballerina....... Not a "Flying Dutchman" but an
> "Iona".   Oh, for submission endorsement...I was driving an MG TD in thos=
e
> days!
>
> Barrie
>
> On 6/28/2021 6:20 PM, Robert's New iPad wrote:
>
>     He is in USA, though we would like to think the Flying Dutchman is yo=
u.
>     Years ago, I sailed a two-person dinghy named Flying Dutchman.  Nice
> boats, fast and fun.
> Bob
>
>
> On Jun 28, 2021, at 2:51 PM, <h.duinhoven@planet.nl> <
> h.duinhoven@planet.nl> wrote:
>
> Now, I wonder who this Flying Dutchman is!
>
> Not me!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hans - mostly on wired wheels =3D 71 BGT, his race bike or one of his thr=
ee
> seventies Puch mopeds
>
>
>
> *Van:* Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> *Namens *dave
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 24 juni 2021 15:24
> *Aan:* 'mglist' <mgs@autox.team.net>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump
>
>
>
> According to The Flying Dutchman, self styled water pump expert, the wate=
r
> pumps these days are crap.  If you want real quality, have him rebuild on=
e
> for you.  it will last.
>
>
>
> http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/
>
>
>
> Sadly, Racestorations in England makes a billet aluminum water pump for
> that other brand.  Not for us.
>
>
>
> *From:* Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Robert's New iPad
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:01 AM
> *To:* Osborne, Paul <paul@ece.rochester.edu>
> *Cc:* mglist <mgs@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump
>
>
>
>      One imagines, seemingly foolishly, that the low production costs in =
a
> certain eastern nation would be so low that additional quality could be
> built included at an acceptable selling price.
>
>      One is so often disappointed.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Osborne, Paul <paul@ece.rochester.edu> wrote=
:
>
> Not to sure if I would complain about the price if I received a quality
> not have ing to return it 3 times to get a good one!!!  Part.    Why can=
=E2=80=99t
> we just get good part.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul Osborne
> Department of Electrical and Computer Eng
> University of Rochester
> 201 Hopeman Building RC
> Rochester NY 14627
>
>    585-275-5226
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Right. And if they were we'd be b*tching about the price!
>
>
>
> Dan D
>
> '76B, '65B
>
> Central NJ USA
>
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>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com>
> wrote:
>
> I would never expect it to be.  How much stuff like this is made in
> England these days, or America for that matter?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>
> Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from Moss.  Made in
> England, NOT!
>
> Mike MacLean
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>If we are talking racing dinghies, I once came 6th in=
 the US Fireball national championships. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Simo=
n</div><div>P.S. There were 7 boats in the competition. <br></div></div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, J=
un 29, 2021 at 8:39 AM Barrie Robinson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:barrob@bell.ne=
t">barrob@bell.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    <font size=3D"-1"><font face=3D"Arial">I raced a home built VJ,
        Australia&#39;s two person dingy, for a season.=C2=A0 It was offere=
d to
        me by the chap who built it, and subjected to the condition I
        took his daughter as second person. =C2=A0 She was a scorcher and I
        had no qualms having her as my partner. =C2=A0=C2=A0 The sails wher=
e made
        by the bloke&#39;s wife and were marginally better than wet toast. =
=C2=A0
        I was awarded a cup by the club for being last every race. The
        daughter and=C2=A0 I became firm friends and I visited her many tim=
es
        when she went to the Sadlers Wells Ballet School UK - she was a
        ballerina....... Not a &quot;Flying Dutchman&quot; but an &quot;Ion=
a&quot;.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Oh,
        for submission endorsement...I was driving an MG TD in those
        days!<br>
        <br>
        Barrie<br>
      </font></font><br>
    <div>On 6/28/2021 6:20 PM, Robert&#39;s New iPad
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 He is in USA, though we would like to =
think the
        Flying Dutchman is you.</div>
      <div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Years ago, I sailed a two-person dingh=
y named
        Flying Dutchman.=C2=A0 Nice boats, fast and fun.</div>
      <div dir=3D"ltr">Bob</div>
      <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
        On Jun 28, 2021, at 2:51 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@plan=
et.nl" target=3D"_blank">h.duinhoven@planet.nl</a>&gt;
        &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:h.duinhoven@planet.nl"; target=3D"_blank">h.du=
inhoven@planet.nl</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        <br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type=3D"cite">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">
         =20
         =20
         =20
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Now, I
                wonder who this Flying Dutchman is! <u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Not me!<u></u><u></=
u></span></p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Cheers,
                <u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Hans -
                mostly on wired wheels =3D 71 BGT, his race bike or one of
                his three seventies Puch mopeds<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p>
            <div>
              <div style=3D"border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor curr=
entcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;paddin=
g:3pt 0cm 0cm">
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>Van:</b> Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net<=
/a>&gt;
                  <b>Namens </b>dave<br>
                  <b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 24 juni 2021 15:24<br>
                  <b>Aan:</b> &#39;mglist&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
                  <b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump<u></u><u></u=
></p>
              </div>
            </div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">According to The
                Flying Dutchman, self styled water pump expert, the
                water pumps these days are crap.=C2=A0 If you want real
                quality, have him rebuild one for you.=C2=A0 it will last. =
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"http://w=
ater-pump-rebuilders.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://water-pump-rebuilders.c=
om/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Sadly,
                Racestorations in England makes a billet aluminum water
                pump for that other brand.=C2=A0 Not for us.<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p>
            <div>
              <div style=3D"border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor curr=
entcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;paddin=
g:3pt 0cm 0cm">
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Mgs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank">mgs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert&#39;s New iPad<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:01 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Osborne, Paul &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paul@ece=
.rochester.edu" target=3D"_blank">paul@ece.rochester.edu</a>&gt;<br>
                    <b>Cc:</b> mglist &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank">mgs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump<u></u><u></u=
></span></p>
              </div>
            </div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></span></p>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0One imagines,
                  seemingly foolishly, that the low production costs in
                  a certain eastern nation would be so low that
                  additional quality could be built included at an
                  acceptable selling price.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0One is so
                  often disappointed.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Bob<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></span></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span lan=
g=3D"EN-US"><br>
                  On Jun 24, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Osborne, Paul &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:paul@ece.rochester.edu"; target=3D"_blank">paul@ece.rochester.edu</a=
>&gt;
                  wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
            <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
              <div>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Not to sure if =
I
                    would complain about the price if I received a
                    quality not have ing to return it 3 times to get a
                    good one!!!=C2=A0 Part. =C2=A0 =C2=A0Why can=E2=80=99t =
we just get good
                    part.=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></span></p>
                <div>
                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></span></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Paul<u></u><u=
></u></span></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></span></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></span></p>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt=
">
                        <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US">Paul Osborne<br>
                            Department of Electrical and=C2=A0Computer Eng<=
br>
                            University of Rochester=C2=A0<br>
                            201 Hopeman Building RC<br>
                            Rochester NY 14627<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                          =C2=A0585-275-5226<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p>
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                        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">On Jun
                            24, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Dan DiBiase &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:dan.dibiase@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">dan.dibiase@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;
                            wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Right=
.
                              And if they were we&#39;d be b*tching about
                              the price! <u></u><u></u></span></p>
                          <div>
                            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Dan
                                D<u></u><u></u></span></p>
                          </div>
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                            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&#3=
9;76B,
                                &#39;65B<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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tral
                                NJ USA<br clear=3D"all">
                                <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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eaqQZhHbOU&amp;r=3Dj_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&amp;m=3DIVPb=
0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&amp;s=3DrB7b6mXC14LK5_ZVAHMbqbWFGF3=
hnm7nP3norZF7jEM&amp;e=3D" target=3D"_blank">http://dandibiase.cbintouch.co=
m/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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                            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">On
                                Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73
                                &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedi=
a.com" target=3D"_blank">paulhunt73@virginmedia.com</a>&gt;
                                wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                          <blockquote style=3D"border-color:currentcolor cu=
rrentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid;=
border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0c=
m 5pt 4.8pt">
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                                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
>I
                                    would never expect it to be.=C2=A0 How
                                    much stuff like this is made in
                                    England these days, or America for
                                    that matter?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
                              </div>
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>=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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r currentcolor currentcolor black;border-style:none none none solid;border-=
width:medium medium medium 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt=
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S"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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                                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S">Just received my new
                                      water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from
                                      Moss.=C2=A0 Made in England, NOT! <u>=
</u><u></u></span></p>
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                                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN=
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