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Dan,
Disconnect the hose at the brake booster, plug the hose & start the
engine. See if it runs better.
CR
On 9/5/2016 10:04 PM, Paul Root via Mgs wrote:
> I would say you remove the hose from the carb to the brake booster.
>
>
>> On Sep 5, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Dan DiBiase d_dibiase@yahoo.com
>>
>>
>> Paul, the idea of brake fluid being pulled into the carb is
>> interesting - how would I tell?
>>
>> I am running the automatic water choke on the Z-S carb. I do have a
>> manual choke conversion kit I was thinking of installing.
>>
>> Thx, Dan
>>
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>> *Sent:*Monday, September 5, 2016 3:35 PM
>> *Subject:*Re: [MG-MGB] Rough Running
>>
>>
>>
>> My first thought is that the power brake diaphragm broke and you are
>> sucking break fluid into the carb.
>>
>> Plugs look really rich. Do you have a manual choke or the automatic
>> water choke? That could be gummed up as well.
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 5, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Dan DiBiased_dibiase@yahoo.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi - last year, my '76B (with '75 engine and single Z-S carb) died
>>> while I was out driving and would not restart. Once back home, I
>>> managed to get it to start but it runs very rough and
>>> generates some light smoke - not dense clouds, and not white (like
>>> with a head gasket leak) but stinky none-the-less. I posted a video
>>> here -
>>>
>>> http://s24.photobucket.com/user/ddibiase/media/1976%20MGB%20Engine%20Work/6C2F4746-A8C6-4D19-BA08-399597F43772_zpsvgtqyk59.mp4.html
>>>
>>> That gives a sense of idle roughness, if not the light smoke... The
>>> tach is steady at idle.
>>>
>>> I've replaced spark plugs and distributor rotor, as well as cleaned
>>> the contacts in the plug leads. Just installed a new electronic fuel
>>> pump as the old one crapped out. Lines are clear
>>> and fuel filter fills nicely. Carb was rebuilt about 4 years ago and
>>> before the car died on me last year, the car ran very well. I did
>>> open it up to check the diaphragm and floats, they are fine
>>> and the carb was clean inside. Car has about gas, most from last
>>> year but with 2 gallons from today added.
>>>
>>> I did not try to drive it as the brakes need to be bled....
>>>
>>> I've changed jobs recently and now have time to get this car back on
>>> the road and need some help as to where to start....
>>>
>>> Thx,
>>>
>>> Dan D
>>> '76B, '65B
>>> Central NJ USA
>>>
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<p>Dan,</p>
<p>Disconnect the hose at the brake booster, plug the hose &
start the engine. See if it runs better.</p>
<p>CR<br>
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I would say you remove the hose from the carb to the brake
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style="line-height: 1.22em;">Hi - last year, my '76B (with '75 engine
and single Z-S
carb) died while I
was out driving
and would not
restart. Once back
home, I managed to
get it to start
but it runs very
rough and</div>
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clouds, and not
white (like with a
head gasket leak)
but stinky
none-the-less. I
posted a video
here -</div>
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not the light
smoke... The tach
is steady at idle.<span
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style="line-height: 1.22em;">I've replaced spark plugs and distributor
rotor, as well as
cleaned the
contacts in the
plug leads. Just
installed a new
electronic fuel
pump as the old
one crapped out.
Lines are clear</div>
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style="line-height: 1.22em;">and fuel filter fills nicely. Carb was
rebuilt about 4
years ago and
before the car
died on me last
year, the car ran
very well. I did
open it up to
check the
diaphragm and
floats, they are
fine</div>
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style="line-height: 1.22em;">and the carb was clean inside. Car has
about gas, most
from last year but
with 2 gallons
from today added.</div>
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need to be
bled....<br
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style="line-height: 1.22em;">I've changed jobs recently and now have
time to get this
car back on the
road and need some
help as to where
to start....</div>
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