Comments correcting and challenging the stupidity and foolishness of the
lonely MAC user spliced in below...
At 12:34 AM 12/5/97 -0600, J. Neil Doane wrote:
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>Ack, who's bashing Macs? Easy now...:) We all know Macs aren't the most
>popular or have the most software available, but we all of course
And there are good reasons the public has staied away from the the
proprietery contraptions.
realize
>that Macintosh makes the fastest PCs around barring Alpha systems (I'd put
>any G3 or PPC604e 300/350 mhz against any dual Pentium systems around.)
Wrong. Put it up against my Compaq 5000 with 4 CPU's. With OEM
agreements, I can run it up to 32 CPU's. Do that with your MAC.
>And we all know Macs come with faster hard drives (SCSI built onboard,
>which _few_ PCs have)...and I've yet to see a case that's easier to work
I haven't order hardly any PC's with IDE/EIDE, most of them I order come
with SCSI, SCSI2 , Fast-Wide, etc... and most often of a faster design
than a MAC's HDD's configuation and throughput.
>on than the 8600/9600/G3 cases. And Macs are much more expandable than
>PCs...more devices will fit on the integrated SCSI bus than the EIDE bus
>on PCs. I mean, hardware-wise, they are superior in almost every
>conceivable way.
Boy, you really are tripping aren't you?!
Most of the Compaq 5000/6000 I order have two SCSI Array2P controller
cards. And the expandability is endless.
MAC, Expandable, more so compared to a micro based machine you don't get
out much, obviously. Your last statement is so incorrect, that I don't
feel like typing for two hours to just scratch the surface of items that
you can be sighted on.
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>Many of the comments so far have involved comments about Macs from a
>perspective of the OS. Granted, we all know that MacOS is slow and
>cumbersome and _doesn't_ perform as reliably as would we would like
Thats a special MAC feature.
it to
>sometimes, but we also must remember that Macs will run a variety of OSes
>that utilize hardware better. Rhapsody, for instance, is vastly
>superior to Windows 95 (and Windows98) and takes full advantage of Mac's
>standard RISC processor (which PCs also don't have excepting Alphas.)
BeOS and Linux also run on PowerPCs which makes for _powerful_
>servers...so comments like "Macs lock up often." should really be said
>"MacOS locks up often." I'm not sure I can think of any
>non-Windows95/98/NT OS that will run on an x86-based machine that won't
>run on a Mac better actually. (And I can run Windows 95 with VirtualPC on
>our G3 _faster_ than it will run on a Pentium 166...and that's while
>running MacOS _at the same time_.)
>
Who would want to run a MAC OS on a PC? Then we would suffer that "Macs
lock up often" problem.
>Agreed, Windows 95 has more applications, but just because the parts are
>more available for a Chevy Camaro doesn't mean it's a better car
Make a fair comparison. Let me even the odds. Those parts for the
Camaro... Twin Turbos on a modified LT1 engine with lots of dyno testing,
yep, lunch the Lotus and Shelby. The Lotus would break before crossing the
line and the Shelby owner won't even start the garage queen up.
than a
>Shelby or Lotus.
OS's.... NT Server and Workstation runs on Intel, Intel Clone, PPC, Alpha,
RISC, theres one more CPU architecture and I can't remember right now.
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>Also, more Macs are used to _make_ the effects you see from Hollywood than
>any other platform (aside from SGIs), so that's one of the reasons you see
>them in so many movies.
>
Wrong. SGI's does do a lot of stuff, other companies that folks havn't
heard of do the majority. Not MAC. They need real computing horsepower,
they turn to Aplha based, Sparc Based, Other RISC based platforms usually
running UNIX. RISC based arcitecture usually run Unix the best and Unix is
very fast and very efficient and very reliable. More so than most other OS's.
>Diving into an asbestos suit,
>
Damn well better, MAC boy.
>Neil Doane
>
>On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Robert Allen wrote:
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>> As for Sully and the 1 second connect time, that's how it works if you
>> have a (superior American technology) 128Kbit ISDN connection.
>>
>> And as for bashing Apples, have you ever noticed that everything coming
>> out of Hollywood always have the geeks using Apple computers? It is very
>> unusual to ever see the ubiquitous screen from the Redmond Gorilla.
>>
>> (I apologize in advance for participating in this thread)
>>
>> Bob Allen, Kansas City, 69CGT, 75TR6, 60Elva,
>> 486DX66(W3.1), 486DX66(W95), 90Pent(W95), 90Pent(NT3.51s),
>> 200Pent(NT4.0), Dell Portable (W95).
>> "I think there is a world market for about 5 computers."
>> Thomas J. Watson, Chairman of IBM, 1948
>>
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