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Re: Startup Problems

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Subject: Re: Startup Problems
From: <peter-thiel@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:27:30 -0500
Yes, I meant 360 degrees, not 180. Thanks Bud.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <peter-thiel@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Bill Snyder" <wtsnyder@bellsouth.net>; <mg-t@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: Startup Problems


> Hi Bill,
>    Several things to consider.
> First priority is spark and ignition timing.
> Once you get that right, then check fuel.
>
> To run tests by turning the engine, take all the plugs out. Its easier to
> begin that way.
>
> Its possible you have the distributor 180 degrees off, sending the spark 
> to
> the number 4 plug (1-3-4-2 firing order). That way you'd hear a spark at 
> the
> rotor (it jumps a gap there, the rotor doesn't hit it), but the plug is 
> still
> in the engine.
>
> To check, make sure the pointer on the timing cover is lined up with the
> groove or hole on the crankshaft pulley, and #1 piston at TDC (look in 
> spark
> plug hole). If #1 is not at TDC, rotate the engine 180 degrees until the 
> mark
> lines up again. Number 1 piston should then be at TDC.
>
> Then see if the rotor is pointing approximately toward #1 cylinder. If 
> not,
> you'll need to pull the distributor out, rotate the rotor so it is 
> pointing at
> #1, allowing for the angle of the drive gear, and put the distributor back 
> in.
> You may have to do this several times, as Bob was saying, until you've got 
> the
> rotor pointing to #1. The plug wires and low tension lead should not be
> strained at all once it is in the right place.
>
> From here you can proceed with what Bob was saying for setting the 
> ignition
> timing with a light, remembering that the rotor turns counter-clockwise 
> during
> normal operation.
> Get back to us,
> Pete Thiel
> 53 TD
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Snyder" <wtsnyder@bellsouth.net>
> To: "MG T List" <mg-t@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:56 PM
> Subject: Startup Problems
>
>
>>I have the day off today and finally I am trying to get this '53 TD
>> started. I have good oil pressure when turning the engine over without
>> the ignition on (after priming the oil pump). I have tried to set static
>> ignition timing using a Colortune. With #1 cylinder at TDC and the
>> ignition on, I slowing turn the distributor counterclockwise. I can hear
>> a spark when the rotor hits the high tension lead but cannot see a spark
>> from the Colortune. I have also tried a spark plug attached to the lead,
>> out of the cylinder and making ground contact. Again, I can hear a spark
>> when the rotor makes contact, but no spark from the plug. When doing
>> this same thing but turning over the engine with the ignition on, the
>> plug appears to spark properly as do the other plugs using the same
>> method. The engine, however, will not fire with all plugs in place and
>> the starter switch engaged and ignition on.
>>
>> Any advice? I am wondering if my coil output is not adequate to supply a
>> strong enough spark for me to see the spark with the Colortune or when
>> advancing the timing using a plug for visualization. Could the
>> white/black and black wires to the coil be reversed? Could I just not be
>> getting adequate fuel to the ignition chambers? Float bowls are full and
>> the aftermarket fuel pump is pumping. The coil high tension wire has
>> been rigging by the PO. The coil does not have a screw in type
>> connection and the lead has just been shoved into the coil.
>>
>> Any and all input appreciated. I am ready to hear this engine go!
>>
>> Bill Snyder
>> Waynesville, NC
>> '53 TD

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