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Re: Changing Rear End Ratio in a TD

To: lpalmer@vanstar.com, BobMGT@aol.com, mg-t@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Changing Rear End Ratio in a TD
From: JVK52TD@aol.com
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:04:07 EDT
Greetings All,

I have been following the thread on the changing of the "T" rear end.  How 
fast are you driving with this change ??  I have had trouble with the engine 
not standing up to 65-70 mph speeds with the 4.3, even though it will go much 
faster than that !!!  I am at 5000 when I am @ 65 & 5500 @ 70..  Do not know 
how accurate my tach is....

John Kinney    Danville IL


In a message dated 8/9/99 6:38:28 PM Central Daylight Time, 
lpalmer@vanstar.com writes:

<< Bob,
 
 See my answers below:
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: BobMGT@aol.com [mailto:BobMGT@aol.com]
 Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 5:07 PM
 To: mg-t@autox.team.net
 Cc: mgs@autox.team.net
 Subject: Changing Rear End Ratio in a TD
 
 
 I've always shied away from highway driving in my TD. The engine just
 doesn't 
 sound too happy at 4000rpm. I've finely decided to take the plunge and
 change 
 the rear end ratio. My mechanic has an MGA parts car, and is ready to sell
 me 
 any parts I need from the rear end. Are the ring and pinion gears the only 
 two parts I'll need from the MGA? 
 
 No. If you choose to use MGA ring and pinion, you'll also need the driving
 flange, the pinion distance tube and spacer. Bearings for at least the
 pinion will also be required. But it's better to buy those new. Optionally,
 as long as you are in there, you'll probably want to replace the carrier
 bearings if they aren't brand new. (By the way, I have a full set of
 bearings for sale, if you need them.)
 ==================================
 Also, what is the recommended ratio for highway driving? Here are the
 options 
 I've found:
 
     Standard TD 5.125   3900rpm @ 55mph (What I have now)
     TD option       4.875   3700rpm @ 55mph
     TD option           4.555   3470rpm @ 55mph (Gears available from Moss)
     MGA             4.3     3300rpm @ 55mph
     MGA             4.1     3120rpm @ 55mph
 
 It depends upon the type of driving you do. If all you do is freeway driving
 across nice flat states, the 4.3 is good. If, like me, you do a bit more
 hills, I find the 4.55 ideal. Don't consider anything lower ratio than 4.3.
 Since the TD transmission gearing is different than an MGA, don't expect
 that you'll get the same RPM/Speed combinations as the MGA. I find that with
 a 4.55 rear end, I do just about 60 MPH at 4000 RPM. I can also happily do
 65 MPH, at about 4250 - 4300 RPM. All this with a slight reduction in hill
 climbing ability. I know find, with a 4.55 ratio, that hills I used to take
 in 4th gear, now require 3rd.
 =========================
 My mechanic claims the MGA parts car has a ratio of 4.5, but I only see 4.3 
 and 4.1 in the literature. Is he mistaken?
 
 No, a 4.55 ratio was available. I know, because I'm running one in the TD.
 
 Carl Cedarstrand wrote a very good booklet on the subject of rear end
 conversions some years ago. It is still available from Moss Motors. I highly
 recommend you get a copy and read up on the theory and practice. I used it
 as the basis of a workshop I conducted for our local club last winter. We
 did 6 conversions in one day. To a person, everyone is very happy with the
 4.55 ratio.
 
 Regards,
 Lew Palmer
 Bob Donahue (Still stuck in the '50s)
 EMAIL - BOBMGT@AOL.COM
 52 MGTD - under DIY restoration NEMGTR #11470
 71 MGB   - AMGBA #96-12029, NAMGBR #7-3336
 
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