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Re: Ardun head studs

To: <ardunbill@webtv.net>, <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: Ardun head studs
From: "Chris R Harris" <yesford@clear.net.nz>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:49:43 +1300
Might sound crude Bill but how about increasing the rocker cover mounting
holes to 7/16 like the studs or do you need the step to prevent over
tightening. How about a sleeve over the stud to achieve this.

Chris H.............NZed.


> Hi Folks, Keith said what's going on, here's what's going on in the
> Great Dismal Swamp.
>
> Being told that with a flat, dead-soft one piece copper Ardun gasket, 60
> ft. lbs of torque is necessary on 7/16 molygreased fine threads to
> achieve the necessary head joint integrity, I tested my homemade 4130
> studs to destruction today.  No not all of them, just the four specials
> I had to make, which have reduced 5/16 extensions on 'em up to help hold
> the rocker covers on.  All the others are ARPs which are well up to the
> job.
>
> So after hearing that well-known "pop", removing the carefully-assembled
> head, and extracting the broken stub by devious means, I called ARP to
> see what could be done.  There was good news and bad news.  The good
> news was they actually make a 7/16 stud 7-3/8" long which is the working
> length I need, but the other news is I'll have to find my own means of
> putting the 5/16 extension on it.  Like the fella said, "We could make a
> special for you, but it would be $1K apiece, and I don't think you want
> to go that way."  How right he was.  He did go on to say that sometime
> back, a couple years ago, somebody, he couldn't remember who, had ARP
> make 20 sets of Ardun studs, and they did make these oddballs with the
> reduced tops on 'em.  The batch order was big enough to get a fairly
> reasonable price on them.  Bet they still cost an arm and a leg.  Maybe
> it was Don Orosco, with his repro Ardun project, or maybe his successor
> Don Ferguson who took over the repros.
>
> So anyway I ordered the four longies I needed, and I'll leave it to your
> imagination how I will stick the extension on there.  The ARP guy said
> the heat treatment of his stud starts to go away at 900 degrees, so that
> limits your options.  Since brazing is 1300 or more, and welding even
> more.
>
> Anybody know where I could get 4 U.S. made, certified bonafide 7/16 NC
> Grade 8 bolts 10 inches long?  We could turn one end down to 5/16 and
> put a couple of threads on it.  The ARP studs are claimed to be way
> better than Grade 8, and I believe it.  They are also straight, which
> not every Grade 8 bolt is.
>
> Cheers from Ardun Bill

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