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Re: Electronics vs. old way

To: "Beth Butters" <bbutters@dmi.net>, "'Carl Dreher'" <focusrsh@arn.net>
Subject: Re: Electronics vs. old way
From: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 09:49:01 -0500
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I have to echo what Dave said completely. Electronics are the future, "speed
costs money so how fast would you like to go?" However, I think in the long
run you'll be ahead of the game dollar wise.

Nostalgia is great, but we have vintage classes now for those who want to
run older technology. So there is a place (class) to race, just maybe not in
your current configuration. Perhaps the pre-'48 body rule needs to be up
dated to pre-'58 now. Time marches on.

I have an electronic fuel injection system on my car now...normally
aspirated. Have been running it since July. I love it, the best damn plug
readings I have ever seen. It wasn't perfect the first time out...although
it did run 9 MPH over the E/GCC record at Bonneville...just below
expectations, and I still have some bugs to work out and answers to find.
Just need a test run at Maxton to prove out my solutions. So taken with this
new technology that I have started a small EFI business in the basement.
Don't have all the answers...still climbing the learning curve...but if I
can help anyone upgrade to EFI feel free to e-mail off list.

John Beckett

-----Original Message-----
From: Beth Butters <bbutters@dmi.net>
To: 'Carl Dreher' <focusrsh@arn.net>
Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 11:46 PM
Subject: RE: Electronics vs. old way


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>From:  Carl Dreher[SMTP:focusrsh@arn.net]
>Sent:  Friday, November 12, 1999 7:48 PM
>Cc:  land-speed@autox.team.net
>Subject:  Re: Electronics vs. old way
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>       I've been wandering if the day isn't coming  when  the supercharged
classes are going to be dominated  by the  electronics managed tubocharged
motors and us guys who just don't want to go their  are racing  amongst
ourselves.  I watch cars like Krugels  CBG/Alt  put the record where  AA
cars dream of going.  It would appear that if you have the money and the
inkling to  use electronics to manage a tubo'd motor it is possible to pull
hundreds more HP  than  you can with mechanical means.  I guess I wander if
one day the records will be split between electronics managed motors and
non. Kind of give us our own XO classes, maybe NE class (no electronics)  or
will we just  kind of disappear from the scene??  I admit I'm stuck in the
60s but I like old cars and the way they were made to run back then and
besides  I will also feel great if I can get my Hilborn to work properly.
Anybody else feel the same way? I know that either way you do it, It is a
great challenge  with sat!
>isfying results  and electronics  is here and now and the future, I just
feel  its two different ball games, maybe its okay if  we go the way of
Vintage racing  someday.  I've been crewing on Bob Ragsdales 53 stude
CBG/alt for the last few years which he has really worked to get the record
in the class. In l996 we qualified on an open record just in front of  David
Parks  tubocarged  early Camaro, we broke and he set the record at 225,
fought on for a couple of years and along comes Krugals awesome car  which
puts the record where no Studebaker is likely to ever go. So  its to D class
last year and along comes John Rain who sets the record at something like
247, about dreamable max for Bobs car with its now near state of the art
dialed in  injected, intercooled 671 supercharged chev with electronic
surveillance. So off to another class hopping some  super sleek  tubo'd car
doesn't get to the line before he has a chance.  I hate to see cars like
this disappear  like the flathea!
>ds  and GMC six cars almost did.  Keep an eye on the situation in
>of us can get suggestion forms at the timing stand and take action to keep
this style of doing things alive.  Regards Kvach in N.Idaho
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