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Michael,We do have a spare trans output shaft & we have watched your video=
& made a wire tool to retract the pump plunger. We have verified that the =
plunger is fully retracted & the splines are aligned. The spare shaft goes =
in about 1/2" (all the way in) further than the one that came out of the ca=
r.=C2=A0Gary
On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 07:12:20 AM CDT, Michael Salter <michaelsa=
lter@gmail.com> wrote: =20
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Although one may be difficult to find there is no substitute for a spare g=
earbox 3rd motion shaft for this job.The spare shaft is used to align all t=
he internals then, using my special tool to hold the pump plunger retracted=
https://precisionsportscar.com/laycock-de-normanville-overdrive-installatio=
n-tool/=C2=A0it is a simple task to lower the overdrive onto the gearbox.=
=C2=A0
M
On Mon., Jun. 19, 2023, 11:41 p.m. Bob Spidell, <bspidell@comcast.net> wrot=
e:
There is a bronze thrust washer that has to be perfectly centered to get =
that last 3/4" (#148 in this diagram):
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https://mossmotors.com/ahy-041-overdrive-unit-bn2-thru-bj8
=20
You can wiggle it around with a long screwdriver, or use a suitable 'drift=
' to center it. Your best bet is to sit the O/D on end and lower the gearbo=
x onto it; gently rotating the gearbox while lowering. First time I did thi=
s I must have got lucky, but danged if I can explain this (see attached pho=
to). Most recently I fought for a couple days then threw in the towel and t=
ook gearbox and O/D to BCS which, fortunately, is only a half-hour away. Da=
vid and his mechanics had a novel technique I've not heard described anywhe=
re; basically, he removed the pump completely--it's only two screws IIRC--a=
nd split the O/D into front and rear sections and tipped the gearbox and O/=
D up--gearbox on bottom--then had two of his mechanics pull the sections to=
gether with huge channellock pliers while David rotated the output shaft to=
'feel it in' (you had to be there).
=20
Good luck. Make triply sure you have the pump cam oriented correctly, or y=
ou'll get more experience with this process than you probably want.
=20
bs
=20
On 6/19/2023 6:18 PM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote:
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I spent the day assisting a friend trying to mate his OD to his transmiss=
ion. The car is a '63 BJ7. The overdrive & Trans. were pulled to replace a =
few internal trans parts which was done & we did not run into any issues. W=
e can get the OD to within approx. 1/2-3/4" of mating to the trans, but can=
not close that gap. We have confirmed that the oil pump roller has been ful=
ly retracted. What are we bumping up against & how do we get past it? Gary =
Hodson =20
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Michael,</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" data-setdir=3D"false">We do have a spare trans output shaft & we hav=
e watched your video & made a wire tool to retract the pump plunger. We=
have verified that the plunger is fully retracted & the splines are al=
igned. The spare shaft goes in about 1/2" (all the way in) further than the=
one that came out of the car. </div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"f=
alse">Gary</div><div><br></div>
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On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 07:12:20 AM CDT, Michael S=
alter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:
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h one may be difficult to find there is no substitute for a spare gearbox 3=
rd motion shaft for this job.<div>The spare shaft is used to align all the =
internals then, using my special tool to hold the pump plunger retracted</d=
iv><div><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://precisionsportscar.com/laycock-de=
-normanville-overdrive-installation-tool/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://precisionsportscar.com/laycock-de-normanville-overdrive-installa=
tion-tool/</a></div><div> it is a simple task to lower the overdrive o=
nto the gearbox. </div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>M</div></div=
><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydpd0cdbba8yiv8503291482gmail_quote"><div=
id=3D"ydpd0cdbba8yiv8503291482yqt62544" class=3D"ydpd0cdbba8yiv8503291482y=
qt3152633389"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydpd0cdbba8yiv8503291482gmail_attr"=
>On Mon., Jun. 19, 2023, 11:41 p.m. Bob Spidell, <<a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">bspidel=
l@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"m=
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There is a bronze thrust washer that has to be perfectly centered to
get that last 3/4" (#148 in this diagram):<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/ahy-041-overdrive-unit=
-bn2-thru-bj8" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://mossmotors.com/ah=
y-041-overdrive-unit-bn2-thru-bj8</a><br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
You can wiggle it around with a long screwdriver, or use a suitable
'drift' to center it. Your best bet is to sit the O/D on end and
lower the gearbox onto it; gently rotating the gearbox while
lowering. First time I did this I must have got lucky, but danged if
I can explain this (see attached photo). Most recently I fought for
a couple days then threw in the towel and took gearbox and O/D to
BCS which, fortunately, is only a half-hour away. David and his
mechanics had a novel technique I've not heard described anywhere;
basically, he removed the pump completely--it's only two screws
IIRC--and split the O/D into front and rear sections and tipped the
gearbox and O/D up--gearbox on bottom--then had two of his mechanics
pull the sections together with huge channellock pliers while David
rotated the output shaft to 'feel it in' (you had to be there).<br clea=
r=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Good luck. Make triply sure you have the pump cam oriented
correctly, or you'll get more experience with this process than you
probably want.<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
bs<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<div>On 6/19/2023 6:18 PM, warthodson--- via
Healeys wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I spent the day assisting a
friend trying to mate his OD to his transmission. The car is a
'63 BJ7. The overdrive & Trans. were pulled to replace a
few internal trans parts which was done & we did not run
into any issues. We can get the OD to within approx. 1/2-3/4"
of mating to the trans, but cannot close that gap. We have
confirmed that the oil pump roller has been fully retracted.
What are we bumping up against & how do we get past it?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Gary Hodson</div>
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