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I like to do the "Throw over" adjustment on a live battery which=0Ainsur=
es that the diaphragm is in the correct hole location (4 or 5=0Aback). E=
nergizing the unit insures it is correct for the=0Apoint/diaphragm lengt=
h position. =0AThen viewing that photo as was sent with more rust than d=
esired, I=0Afeel that one of the most important items in the rebuild is=
the cap=0Aseal. Usually missing or rotted but friction tape would subst=
itute if=0Anecessary. It keeps water out of the critical electrical part=
s=0Aconstantly slopping at it under the wheel well. Additionally, Moss=
=0Asupplies a paper SU seal cover to finish the look. SUs forever! Hank=
=0A=0A=09-----------------------------------------From: "Kees Oudesluijs=
via=0AHealeys" =0ATo: healeys@autox.team.net=0ACc: =0ASent: Sunday Apri=
l 23 2023 5:24:02AM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] fuel pump=0A=0A=09 Op 23-4-=
2023 om 11:58 schreef Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys:=0A SU AUF301 or the l=
ater replacement AZX 1308.=0A=0A Keep the standard set up and repair the=
original unit but add a=0Abidirectional diode (transil/TVS 18V or 19V p=
eak) over the standard=0Acapacitor to further reduce arcing over the poi=
nts. It is usually=0Asufficient to sand the points using say 400 wet&dry=
until there are no=0Aor hardly any black spots visible and finish the s=
urface with 1200=0Awet&dry. Set the gaps at 0,9mm and 2,8mm. If the valv=
es or valve seals=0Ado not leak leave them well alone. The same with the=
domed covers.=0AWhen separating the coil housing from the pump body mak=
e sure you do=0Anot tear the thin white mylar layer of the three layer d=
iaphragm. If=0Athe original diaphragm is intact keep it and do not use a=
modern=0Areplacement. I have rebuilt many pumps with diaphragms over 60=
years=0Aold that are still in pristine condition. I have rebuild well o=
ver a=0Ahundred pumps and rarely see deteriorated diaphragms and the one=
s that=0Aare faulty usually had the thin mylar layer damaged. Carefully=
loosen=0Athe three layers, clean with brake cleaner and let dry thoroug=
hly and=0Aapply some talcum powder very sparingly between the layers to=
reduce=0Afriction and binding.=0A=0A If the Bakelite top or the bridge=
is cracked or even broken you can=0Aeasily fix that using Araldite or s=
imilar. The bridge can easily crack=0Awhen the screws are turned down to=
tight.=0A=0A These pumps are utterly reliable when used regularly and c=
an last=0Awell over 100.000 miles on a set of points and even then it us=
ually=0Asuffice to polish them. When left for a considerable time in a n=
ot=0Acompletely dry storage the points will corrode and fail, which mean=
s=0Ataking the points out, polishing and adjusting them properly.=0A Eve=
n when buying a new points pump it might not work initially=0Abecause of=
corrosion forming during storage. Before installing one=0Ashould always=
run a bit rough carton followed by flower paper 1200=0Athrough the poin=
ts!=0A=0A The pump on my Jensen-Healey, which is the same as on the A-H=
3000,=0Ahas done well over 250.000 miles since 1974 on two cars. It was=
not in=0Ause between 1985 and 2008 bar a yearly start up. I transplante=
d it=0Afrom my first J-H to my present one (from the US) which had a mod=
ern=0Apump installed when I bought it. Most parts are still original=0Ai=
ncluding the (re-polished) points but I did add a transil a few years=0A=
ago and renewed the cork seal under the large dome as the cork was a=0Ab=
it crumbly.=0A=0A On various official SU sites you can find an excellent=
description of=0Ahow to rebuild and set up these pumps. There are also=
some good=0Arecordings on You Tube however there are also some that are=
absolute=0Acrap and do not give any description of how to properly set=
up the=0Apumps.=0A=0A When adjusting the diaphragm you should officiall=
y turn back the=0Adiaphragm 4 holes. It is sometimes necessary to turn b=
ack 5 or 6=0Aholes. Start with 4 and if the pump is not starting up part=
dismantle=0Aand turn another one or two holes.=0A=0A If need be the ori=
ginal points pumps can be repaired "en route". The=0Asolid state pumps c=
annot.=0A=0A The solid state SU pumps can be temperamental. Some last fo=
r ever=0Awithout fail but others just give up or won't start up at all.=
They=0Aare also difficult to set up reliably if they need attention. Th=
e=0Aculprit seems to often be the small plastic bush in the coil housing=
=0Athat is meant to guide the shaft on the diaphragm. This bush can sink=
=0Aout of sight ending up near the diaphragm.=0A=0A The similar plastic=
replacement SS pumps from New Zealand under=0Avarious brand names seem=
very reliable and cheap.=0A=0A Important is that you fit the pump in th=
e car with the outlet facing=0Aupwards!!=0A=0A Some of you have fitted t=
he AZX1307 which is for an MGB. It will work=0Afor normal driving but as=
its delivery pressure is lower than the=0AAZX1308 it may not do for spi=
rited driving. These two pumps are=0Aidentical bar the conical spring on=
the diaphragm which determines the=0Adelivery pressure and the plastic=
cover with the vent on top.=0A=0A Kees Oudesluijs=0A=0A Op 23-4-2023 om=
02:02 schreef healeymanjim via Healeys:=0Aguy in our club has a BT7 who=
se fuel pump expired. he is wondering=0Aabout whether to replace with so=
lid state or standard. wanted to know=0Awhat the wisdom of the group is=
on this subject. 2 of us in club have=0Asolid state ones that refuse to=
work and just take up space in the=0Aparts bin. also, he has a ten year=
old recored radiator that he=0Areplaced with an aluminum one and also a=
steel transmission tunnel=0Acover that he would like to sell since they=
are now just taking up=0Aspace. no reasonable offer refused.=0A _______=
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<html><body>I like to do the "Throw over" adjustment on a live battery w=
hich insures that the diaphragm is in the correct hole location (4 or 5=
back). Energizing the unit insures it is correct for the point/diaphrag=
m length position. <div><br></div><div>Then viewing that photo as w=
as sent with more rust than desired, I feel that one of the most importa=
nt items in the rebuild is the cap seal. Usually missing or rotted but f=
riction tape would substitute if necessary. It keeps water out of the cr=
itical electrical parts constantly slopping at it under the wheel well.=
Additionally, Moss supplies a paper SU seal cover to finish the look. S=
Us forever! Hank<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>----=
-------------------------------------</p>From: "Kees Oudesluijs via Heal=
eys" <healeys@autox.team.net><br>To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>Cc: <br>S=
ent: Sunday April 23 2023 5:24:02AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] fuel pump<=
br><br>=0A<p><img src=3D"/index.php/inbox/attachment/filenameOriginal/WF=
VP9u3woLb5FWrF.png/filenamefs/INBOX604896ec83a32a99e868fae04e7ca3bdce224=
" alt=3D""></p>=0A<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Op 23-4-2023 om 11:58 s=
chreef Kees=0AOudesluijs via Healeys:<br></div>=0A<blockquote>SU AUF301=
or=0Athe later replacement AZX 1308.<br><br>=0AKeep the standard set up=
and repair the original unit but add a=0Abidirectional diode (transil/T=
VS 18V or 19V peak) over the standard=0Acapacitor to further reduce arci=
ng over the points. It is usually=0Asufficient to sand the points using=
say 400 wet&dry until there=0Aare no or hardly any black spots visi=
ble and finish the surface=0Awith 1200 wet&dry. Set the gaps at 0,9m=
m and 2,8mm. If the=0Avalves or valve seals do not leak leave them well=
alone. The same=0Awith the domed covers. When separating the coil housi=
ng from the=0Apump body make sure you do not tear the thin white m=
ylar=0Alayer of the three layer diaphragm. If the original diaphragm is=
=0Aintact keep it and do not use a modern replacement. I have rebuilt=0A=
many pumps with diaphragms over 60 years old that are still in=0Apristin=
e condition. I have rebuild well over a hundred pumps and=0Ararely see d=
eteriorated diaphragms and the ones that are faulty=0Ausually had the th=
in mylar layer damaged. Carefully loosen the=0Athree layers, clean with=
brake cleaner and let dry thoroughly and=0Aapply some talcum powder ver=
y sparingly between the layers to=0Areduce friction and binding.<br><br>=
=0AIf the Bakelite top or the bridge is cracked or even broken you can=
=0Aeasily fix that using Araldite or similar. The bridge can easily=0Acr=
ack when the screws are turned down to tight.<br><br>=0AThese pumps are=
utterly reliable when used regularly and can last=0Awell over 100.000 m=
iles on a set of points and even then it usually=0Asuffice to polish the=
m. When left for a considerable time in a not=0Acompletely dry storage t=
he points will corrode and fail, which=0Ameans taking the points out, po=
lishing and adjusting them=0Aproperly.<br>=0AEven when buying a new poin=
ts pump it might not work initially=0Abecause of corrosion forming durin=
g storage. Before installing one=0Ashould always run a bit rough carton=
followed by flower paper 1200=0Athrough the points!<br><br>=0AThe pump=
on my Jensen-Healey, which is the same as on the A-H 3000,=0Ahas done w=
ell over 250.000 miles since 1974 on two cars. It was not=0Ain use betwe=
en 1985 and 2008 bar a yearly start up. I transplanted=0Ait from my firs=
t J-H to my present one (from the US) which had a=0Amodern pump installe=
d when I bought it. Most parts are still=0Aoriginal including the (re-po=
lished) points but I did add a transil=0Aa few years ago and renewed the=
cork seal under the large dome as=0Athe cork was a bit crumbly.<br><br>=
=0AOn various official SU sites you can find an excellent description=0A=
of how to rebuild and set up these pumps. There are also some good=0Arec=
ordings on You Tube however there are also some that are=0Aabsolute crap=
and do not give any description of how to properly=0Aset up the pumps.<=
br><br>=0AWhen adjusting the diaphragm you should officially turn back t=
he=0Adiaphragm 4 holes. It is sometimes necessary to turn back 5 or 6=0A=
holes. Start with 4 and if the pump is not starting up part=0Adismantle=
and turn another one or two holes.<br><br>=0AIf need be the original po=
ints pumps can be repaired "en route".=0AThe solid state pumps cannot.<b=
r><br>=0AThe solid state SU pumps can be temperamental. Some last for ev=
er=0Awithout fail but others just give up or won't start up at all. They=
=0Aare also difficult to set up reliably if they need attention. The=0Ac=
ulprit seems to often be the small plastic bush in the coil=0Ahousing th=
at is meant to guide the shaft on the diaphragm. This=0Abush can sink ou=
t of sight ending up near the diaphragm.<br><br>=0AThe similar plastic r=
eplacement SS pumps from New Zealand under=0Avarious brand names seem ve=
ry reliable and cheap.<br><br>=0AImportant is that you fit the pump in t=
he car with the outlet=0Afacing upwards!!<br><br>=0ASome of you have fit=
ted the AZX1307 which is for an MGB. It will=0Awork for normal driving b=
ut as its delivery pressure is lower than=0Athe AZX1308 it may not do fo=
r spirited driving. These two pumps are=0Aidentical bar the conical spri=
ng on the diaphragm which determines=0Athe delivery pressure and the pla=
stic cover with the vent on=0Atop.<br><br>=0AKees Oudesluijs<br><br><br>=
<br>=0AOp 23-4-2023 om 02:02 schreef healeymanjim via Healeys:<br><block=
quote>guy in our club has a BT7 whose fuel pump=0Aexpired. he is w=
ondering about whether to replace with solid=0Astate or standard. wanted=
to know what the wisdom of the group is=0Aon this subject. =
2 of us in club have solid state ones=0Athat refuse to work and just ta=
ke up space in the parts bin. =0Aalso, he has a ten year old recore=
d radiator that he replaced with=0Aan aluminum one and also a stee=
l transmission tunnel cover=0Athat he would like to sell since they are=
now just taking up=0Aspace. no reasonable offer refused.<br>=0A__=
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