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From: Alex via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 08:48:22 -0500
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There are nice heavy-duty rotary cut-off switches available at marine 
supply houses. They easily fit the available space.

== Alex in Maine

1960 BT7, 1946 MG-TC


On 3/10/2022 7:48 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:
> Yes agreed, the cutoff switches can go bad.
>
> Best,
>
> Alan
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 8:02 AM R. Lindsay via Healeys 
>
>     Try connecting wire from the battery directly to ground.
>
>     Price Lindsay
>
>     Sent from my iPad
>
>>     On Mar 10, 2022, at 2:33 PM, rfbegani@gmail.com
>>
>>     
>>
>>     It is not the cutoff switch because I replaced it twice over the
>>     years and gave up with using one. Keep thinking I would rebuild
>>     the original one that came with the car and never got around to
>>     it.  Wonder if the new BJ8 cut off switches from Moss are any good?
>>
>>     Must be something else in line under the dash,
>>
>>     Thanks Steve,
>>
>>     Bob Begani
>>
>>     *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 2:15 PM
>>     *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems
>>
>>     The cutoff switch in the boot shorting out?
>>
>>     Something similar happened to me when I was 3000 miles from home.
>>     Fortunately, the first time was temporary and I got home again
>>     before it happened the next time.
>>
>>     Steve Byers
>>
>>     BJ8 Registry
>>
>>     AHCA Delegate at Large
>>
>>     Havelock, NC  USA
>>
>>     *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf
>>     Of *Bob Begani via Healeys
>>     *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 1:16 PM
>>     *Subject:* [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems
>>
>>     My high torque starter stopped operating. Determined it is the
>>     solenoid, so I will be removing it the starter for a bench test. 
>>     Meanwhile, we discovered an interesting electrical situation.
>>     When trying to start the car the starter would short out and the
>>     electrical system would completely shut down.  In checking the
>>     battery connection, it was discovered disconnecting and
>>     reconnecting the ground from the battery the electrical system
>>     became live.  There must be a GFI type of device in the wires to
>>     and from the ignition switch.  I doubt it was installed at the
>>     factory, maybe by the restorer?  What am I looking for under the
>>     dash?  It is a great idea, however I want to know what is it and
>>     where it is located.
>>
>>     Bob Begani
>>
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    <p>There are nice heavy-duty rotary cut-off switches available at
      marine supply houses. They easily fit the available space.</p>
    <p>== Alex in Maine<br>
    </p>
    <p>1960 BT7, 1946 MG-TC<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/10/2022 7:48 PM, Alan Seigrist via
      Healeys wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Yes agreed, the cutoff switches can go bad.
        <div><br>
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        <div>Best,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Alan</div>
      </div>
      <br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 8:02
          AM R. Lindsay via Healeys &lt;<a
            href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="auto">Try connecting wire from the battery directly
            to ground. <br>
            <br>
            <div dir="ltr">Price Lindsay
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Sent from my iPad</div>
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            <div dir="ltr"><br>
              <blockquote type="cite">On Mar 10, 2022, at 2:33 PM, <a
                  href="mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">rfbegani@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">It
                      is not the cutoff switch because I replaced it
                      twice over the years and gave up with using one. 
                      Keep thinking I would rebuild the original one
                      that came with the car and never got around to
                      it.  Wonder if the new BJ8 cut off switches from
                      Moss are any good?</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Must
                      be something else in line under the dash, </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Thanks
                      Steve,</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Bob
                      Begani</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
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style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> BJ8Healeys &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com"; target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">sbyers@ec.rr.com</a>&gt;
                        <br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 10, 2022 2:15 PM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";
                          target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">rfbegani@gmail.com</a><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical
                        problems</p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">The cutoff switch in
                      the boot shorting out?</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Something similar
                      happened to me when I was 3000 miles from home. 
                      Fortunately, the first time was temporary and I
                      got home again before it happened the next 
time.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Steve Byers</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">BJ8 Registry</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">AHCA Delegate at
                      Large</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Havelock, NC  USA</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                            
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Healeys [<a
                            href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
                            target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
                          <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Begani via Healeys<br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 10, 2022 1:16 PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> <a
                            href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
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moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] BJ8 electrical
                          problems</span></p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">My
                      high torque starter stopped operating. Determined
                      it is the solenoid, so I will be removing it the
                      starter for a bench test.  Meanwhile, we
                      discovered an interesting electrical situation. 
                      When trying to start the car the starter would
                      short out and the electrical system would
                      completely shut down.  In checking the battery
                      connection, it was discovered disconnecting and
                      reconnecting the ground from the battery the
                      electrical system became live.  There must be a
                      GFI type of device in the wires to and from the
                      ignition switch.  I doubt it was installed at the
                      factory, maybe by the restorer?  What am I looking
                      for under the dash?  It is a great idea, however I
                      want to know what is it and where it is 
located.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      
style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Bob
                      Begani</span></p>
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