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I think that all the 100Ss used the BN1 front wings.

Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of healeyguy--- vi=
a Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 1:15 AM
To: michael.oritt@gmail.com <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 or BN2

I'm fairly certain that there was not a carry over of the old front guards =
on the BN2.
 I will say that at a west coast meet many years ago, the judges in Concour=
s where having a hard time trying to figure out why a 100 was sitting so od=
dly in the grass field. A view of each side of the car seemed to suggest a =
bent frame or something unusual. The owner had paid big bucks and lots of t=
ime to have the car restored so things should have been on track for a high=
 point car.
After some  (plenty) discussion it was a decided that an otherwise Gold lev=
el car had an early guard on one side and the later BN2 guard on the other =
side. Needless to say there were a few points deducted and a very dejected =
owner....
At every car event I attend since then, I walk around the 100's in attendan=
ce and compare the front guards with the span of my hand..
Perry


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
To: Perry Small <healeyguy@aol.com>
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Aug 8, 2021 8:04 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 or BN2

Perry--

Yes, I forgot that the presence or not of the sledge line is not a reliable=
 indicator

I wonder if any BN2's were built with the BN1 style front fender--with the =
smaller wheel opening and lower sledge?  is the location of the OD and igni=
tion/OD  switches more reliable an indicator?

Best-Michael Oritt

On Sun, Aug 8, 2021, 6:22 PM healeyguy--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.n=
Car # 228086, built 23Aug1955 as a BN2, does not have the body line (swedge=
 line) behind the rear tires.
Perry


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Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 or BN2

Brian--

My 12/54 car #222333 is definitely a BN1 so if the s/n you have is accurate=
 it should unquestionably be a BN1.
There are a number of points of differentiation between the two models, som=
e of which would be rather expensive to fudge from an earlier BN1 to a BN2-=
-is there a swedge line in the rear fenders?

Best--Michael Oritt

On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 4:27 PM Brian Drab via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.n=
Further to the questions on the disc brake conversion, there is now a bit o=
f confusion about what model this 100 is.
The VIN appears to be B222066. The question is =96 is  it a BN1 or a BN2. U=
nfortunately there have been some modifications to the car in it=92s earlie=
r years which really cloud it=92s true model.
Brian Drab
Vancouver
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I think that all the 100Ss used the BN1 front wings.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 9, 2021 1:15 AM<br>
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<div style=3D"color:black; font:10pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">I'm fairly=
 certain that there was not a carry over of the old front guards on the BN2=
.&nbsp;&nbsp;
<div>&nbsp;I will say that at a west coast meet many years ago, the judges =
in Concours where having a hard time trying to figure out why a 100 was sit=
ting so oddly in the grass field. A view of each side of the car seemed to =
suggest a bent frame or something unusual.
 The owner had paid big bucks and lots of time to have the car restored so =
things should have been on track for a high point car.&nbsp;</div>
<div>After some&nbsp; (plenty) discussion it was a decided that an otherwis=
e Gold level car had an early guard on one side and the later BN2 guard on =
the other side. Needless to say there were a few points deducted and a very=
 dejected owner....</div>
<div>At every car event I attend since then, I walk around the 100's in att=
endance and compare the front guards with the span of my hand..&nbsp;</div>
<div>Perry<br>
<br>
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nt size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Michael Oritt &lt;michael.oritt@gmail.com&gt;<br>
To: Perry Small &lt;healeyguy@aol.com&gt;<br>
Cc: Austin Healey &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Sun, Aug 8, 2021 8:04 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN1 or BN2<br>
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<div>Perry--
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<div>Yes, I forgot that the presence or not of the sledge line is not a rel=
iable indicator</div>
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<div>I wonder if any BN2's were built with the BN1 style front fender--with=
 the smaller wheel opening and lower sledge?&nbsp; is the location of the O=
D and ignition/OD&nbsp; switches more reliable an indicator?</div>
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<div>Best-Michael Oritt</div>
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<div class=3D"x_yiv1087902441gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Aug 8, 2021, 6=
:22 PM healeyguy--- via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer"=
 shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>he=
aleys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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<div style=3D"color:black; font:10pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Car # 2280=
86, built 23Aug1955 as a BN2, does not have the body line (swedge line) beh=
ind the rear tires.&nbsp;
<div>Perry<br clear=3D"none">
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From: Michael Oritt via Healeys &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer"=
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To: Brian Drab &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" t=
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<div style=3D"color:#3333ff">Brian--</div>
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<div style=3D"color:#3333ff">My 12/54 car #222333 is definitely a BN1 so if=
 the s/n you have is accurate it should unquestionably be a BN1.</div>
<div style=3D"color:#3333ff">There are a number of points of differentiatio=
n between the two models, some of which would be rather expensive to fudge =
from an earlier BN1 to a BN2--is there&nbsp;a swedge line in the rear fende=
rs?</div>
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<div style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt&nbsp;</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 4:27 PM Brian Drab via Healeys &lt;=
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<div>Further to the questions on the disc brake conversion, there is now a =
bit of confusion about what model this 100 is.<u></u><u></u></div>
<div>The VIN appears to be B222066. The question is =96 is &nbsp;it a BN1 o=
r a BN2. Unfortunately there have been some modifications to the car in it=
=92s earlier years which really cloud it=92s true model.
<u></u><u></u></div>
<div>Brian Drab<u></u><u></u></div>
<div>Vancouver<u></u><u></u></div>
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