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Mine is called =E2=80=9CThe Old Banger=E2=80=9D. Not always and only by =
me.=20
Don=E2=80=99t know if the expression =E2=80=9Cold banger=E2=80=9D has =
made it off these shores. It infers a slightly disreputable old car, =
usually on its last legs. Often to be found on a dodgy garage forecourt, =
mutton sold as lamb.
To be fair, I=E2=80=99m not quite sure how I=E2=80=99ve got into the =
habit of calling it that. The car is nothing special, but the name is =
not fair.
Simon
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell =
via Healeys
Sent: 03 April 2021 03:46
To: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear brake adjustment
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Great idea, Roger! I bought an alignment kit with a similar =
inclinometer.
Bob
On 4/2/2021 9:06 AM, Roger Grace wrote:
Bob - just for interest.
Your large caliper (that I don't have) idea got me thinking and =
remembering that I have one of those digital inclinometer angle boxes =
that I use to set up my saw.
The spec. claims 0.1 deg accuracy and it is spot on when comparing to an =
engineering square.
So I used this as shown in the photos to set the shoe at 90 deg to the =
hub (not backplate)
The 0.1 deg error translates into 4 thou at the edge of the 2.25 in =
width shoe.
rg
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On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 7:31 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net =
I think centering the shoes with the brakes applied works well, but only =
with new/freshly turned drums and shoes. If the shoes aren't centered =
they will wear uneven, and lock up uneven.
The best idea I've come up with is to use a large caliper--not =
easy/cheap to find--and make sure the shoes are square to each other. If =
they are, they should be orthogonal to the backplate.
Bob
On 3/31/2021 10:58 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
Obviously the quality of the felt being used is not satisfactory. I've =
got a pair of BN1 rear brakes here that still have the felts in place =
and are still greasy. =20
I don't believe eliminating metat to metal is the intent ... just to =
provide sufficient lubrication to eliminate squeaks.
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M
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On Wed., Mar. 31, 2021, 11:47 a.m. Roger Grace via Healeys, =
Bob,
Yes agree about the felt bushes. I assume that their only function is to =
prevent metal to metal contact ?
So do the fibre tubes protrude slightly beyond the end of the pegs ?
Will try to locate something suitable.
=20
Wonder how you adjust these pegs ?
There seems to be 3 different techniques:
=20
The Moss method with chalk marks on the shoes.=20
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The Salter method by adjusting in/out to each shoe edge then setting to =
the mid point.
=20
The usual method - centering the shoes (by stomping on the brakes) =
then adjusting the peg to just make contact while shoes are clamped.
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I tend to favour the last method .... ?
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Tkx
rg
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Mine is called =E2=80=9CThe Old =
Banger=E2=80=9D. Not always and only by me. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Don=E2=80=99t know if the =
expression =E2=80=9Cold banger=E2=80=9D has made it off these shores. It =
infers a slightly disreputable old car, usually on its last legs. Often =
to be found on a dodgy garage forecourt, mutton sold as =
lamb.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>To be fair, I=E2=80=99m not quite =
sure how I=E2=80=99ve got into the habit of calling it that. The car is =
nothing special, but the name is not fair.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><di=
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
<healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Spidell =
via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 03 April 2021 03:46<br><b>To:</b> Roger =
Grace <roggrace@telus.net><br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Rear =
brake adjustment<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Great idea, Roger! I bought an alignment =
kit with a similar =
inclinometer.<br><br>Bob<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 4/2/2021 9:06 AM, Roger Grace =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bob - just for interest.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Your large caliper (that I don't have) idea got =
me thinking and remembering that I have one of those digital =
inclinometer angle boxes that I use to set up my =
saw.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The spec. claims 0.1 =
deg accuracy and it is spot on when comparing to an engineering =
square.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>So I used this as =
shown in the photos to set the shoe at 90 deg to the hub (not =
backplate)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The 0.1 deg =
error translates into 4 thou at the edge of the 2.25 in width =
shoe.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>rg<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
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Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 7:31 PM Bob Spidell <<a =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> =
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I think centering the shoes with the =
brakes applied works well, but only with new/freshly turned drums and =
shoes. If the shoes aren't centered they will wear uneven, and lock up =
uneven.<br><br>The best idea I've come up with is to use a large =
caliper--not easy/cheap to find--and make sure the shoes are square to =
each other. If they are, they should be orthogonal to the =
backplate.<br><br>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
3/31/2021 10:58 AM, Michael Salter =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Obviously the quality of the felt being used is not =
satisfactory. I've got a pair of BN1 rear brakes here that still =
have the felts in place and are still greasy. =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I don't believe eliminating =
metat to metal is the intent ... just to provide sufficient lubrication =
to eliminate squeaks.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>M<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed., Mar. 31, 2021, 11:47 a.m. Roger Grace via Healeys, <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bob,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Yes =
agree about the felt bushes. I assume that their only function is to =
prevent metal to metal contact ?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So do the fibre tubes protrude slightly beyond the end =
of the pegs ?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Will try to =
locate something suitable.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Wonder how you adjust these pegs =
?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>There seems to be 3 =
different techniques:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The Moss method with chalk marks on the shoes. =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The Salter method by adjusting in/out to each shoe =
edge then setting to the mid point.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The usual method - centering the shoes (by =
stomping on the brakes) then adjusting the peg to just make contact =
while shoes are clamped.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
tend to favour the last method .... ?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Tkx<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>rg<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p =
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